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Jesús Luis de Jesus Miranda, Anti-Christ or Demented?

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This discussion was posted back in 2008.  The word was out that the followers of Miranda were planning to disrupt the Masses and visit of Pope Benedict XVI to the United States.  They did not even make a blip on the news radar.  Back in 2012, Miranda predicted that his followers would be transformed with the ability to walk through walls and to go through fire unscathed.  The day came and went with no change.  Other cults were predicting the end of the world and the final judgment.  But we are still here.  While he claims to be Jesus (qualified as “the man”), in 2007, he also claimed to be the Antichrist.  He defines this in terms of a demarcation between the Jesus of Scripture and his authority in this new manifestation.  His followers mark their bodies with a 666 tattoo.  It is all very peculiar. 

FATHER JOE:

He says the lie begins in Rome, but he attacks all religions.  It is almost unbelievable to me that people would worship this man and mark themselves with the sign of the beast.  Their tactics are aggression and screaming.  He is now setting his eyes on the growing Hispanic population in the U.S.   He denies the name “Jesus of Nazareth” and yet it is this is the saving name.  He denies great signs and wonders, as well as miracles:  such would cater to a strange occult version of atheism and impugn the efficacy of the sacraments.  He claims to be the fulfillment of all prophecies, making him the final term of all human history; this usurps the true Lord of his place as the eternal Word through whom all things came to be and by whom all will be consummated and judged.  He denies exorcism by asserting that the devil was destroyed and demons do not exist; such a ploy would allow the devils to remain active in hiding with no saving name of Jesus to cast them out.  Arguing that there is no sin, his teachings are absolutely sinister.  This collapse of any notion of sin, leaving souls powerless and in bondage would make for a brilliant demonic battle plan.  He redefines the number of the beast, 666, as the number for himself, a false Christ, and condemns traditional Christians as apostates.  He contends that the number 666 means wisdom and prosperity.  He associates it with worldly treasure.  There is certainly nothing in his teachings about building up treasure for us in the kingdom to come.

Followers mark themselves with 666 / SSS:

The self-proclaimed Son of God:

The cult is spreading around the United States:

ALENA:

¡Jose Luis de Jesús Miranda es dios!  Los sacerdotes son rapists.  ¡El papa es un mentiroso!  Usted no tiene ninguna derecha de hablar contra él.  Protestaremos a papa y proclamaremos la verdad.  ¡No hay diablo!  ¡No hay pecado!  Jesús mató al diablo y ha vencido pecado.  Hay infierno no a pagar.  Podemos tener placer y hacer lo que deseamos.  Predestined a la vida eterna.  El resto de las religiones deben ser destruidas.  ¡Quémese sus catechisms!  ¡Siga a Jesús el hombre!

FATHER JOE:

You are very mistaken. He is not God. The devil is defeated but still spiteful. Priests are good and bad, but mostly good. They bring us God’s mercy and the Eucharist. The commandments are still in force. How we live out our discipleship matters. We should avoid sin and do what is right. There is a hell for those who are God’s enemies.  You should live in peace with others, despite differences.  The Pope is Christ’s vicar, but unlike your Mister Miranda, he does not claim to be God.  How can people be so foolish to join the cults? Here it is [the modern world] and people are worshipping a man like the Romans did the emperor in the time of Christ.  Your religious leader is not Jesus.  You have all been fooled.

PADRE STEVE:

Wow that man needs a lot of prayers… and so do all those who follow him. So many false saviors… very sad! You do a great job with the blog; keep up the good work! God bless!

MISTER 666:

Well, unlike you, MY GOD HAS BLESSED ME WITH EVERY BLESSING (Ephesians 1:3), and also TOOK sin away at the cross (Hebrews 9:26) and is back now with NO RELATION TO SIN (Hebrews 9:28)… He came, to you, LIKE A THEIF IN THE NIGHT because He´s back and you, like Pharisees, don´t see it (or maybe don´t want for it to be seen… since He´s uncovering all the hidden intentions of your heart!).

IT´S A FACT… Not subject to discussion: JOSE LUIS DE JESUS MIRANDA IS THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST!!!! And, no matter whether you like it or not, WILL destroy your religious system with the SPIRIT OF HIS MOUTH aka with His preaching!!! (2 Thessalonians 2:8) is the gospel of Paul now… “too dangerous” for you?  Well… to bad!

FATHER JOE:

You call yourself by the number of the beast, 666? You are the one who is judging good priests with a false verdict. You are the hypocritical Pharisee. Now I see that you are a follower of the cult leader Jesús Miranda? Well, that explains it. He and all his disciples have made the sign of the beast their own. You have been very much deceived. Your soul is in great peril.

CORINNE:

Anyone who feels they have to submit to anyone outside of themselves to gain access to God is fooling themselves unknowingly and standing on shaky ground.

God lives within the heart of man. They will not find God by looking for him in the hearts of others, nor will they find God by looking for him in religions. The heart is the True Church, there is no other.

The only way people are going to realize their mistakes however are by first making them….

Why others feel they have to seek their own divinity in God outside of themselves through others I will never be able to grasp, but they are being taken advantage of unknowingly and will soon find this out on their own. They will soon learn that this too is yet another detour leading them away from God. God talks with all his children, not just some….

FATHER JOE:

The notion that divinity can only be found within the individual person is a heretical teaching. We possess the divine spark but such does not exhaust the reality of God. Further, while there are false messiahs, Catholicism has no problem with mediation: in terms of a teaching authority and in worship. None of us come to God alone. As for the Church, the Catholic Church is the community of faith and the great sacrament of salvation established by Christ.

CORINNE:

Also, anytime someone looks to someone over and above God and worships them, it is a cult and its idolatry.

TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC:

As far as this man, God have mercy on his souls and convert him from his evil ways because he is just paving a path directly to Hell for millions of people. How can you be so blind? I don’t get it.

Pius XII claimed that “the sin of the century is the loss of the sense of sin.” And he is correct as of yet.

CORINNE:

I see the comments here are being taken out of context so I will be moving on and will comment no further. Regarding individual divinity, you’ve twisted my words. We are each a unique individual in God and divine.  Take care.

UNKNOWN:

Hey poor idiots— this guy is merely a joke.  He gives a disgrace to the name of the Anti-Christ.  The Anti-Christ is someone who is powerful and a man full of wisdom.  This guy is a filthy scum.  It is nice knowing he will burn in hell.

FATHER JOE:

If the title anti-Christ belongs to men other than Nero, then it is a label for any who oppose Christ. If it should also belong to a singular person at the end of human history, then I suspect that…

  • He, himself, will emerge from a contradictory religious background where selective toleration is preached, applauding one’s own but castigating others and deriding the noble values of our founding fathers;
  • He will be brilliant and applauded as an orator able to excite and inspire the masses to accept his mission of change;
  • He will be a person who has forfeited saving grace, redefining sin, not as a violation of God’s will but of one’s own principles;
  • He will seemingly come out of nowhere;
  • His rise to power will happen as if overnight;
  • His fame will far surpass any genuine acts of heroism or virtue;
  • He will not so much have supporters as worshippers who will chant his name;
  • Weak people generally regarded as nominally moral will support him even though he will espouse a narcissistic faith and will be explicitly tagged with a 100% pro-abortion and pro-gay rating;
  • He will be hailed as an icon for a people who were oppressed and will exert a mesmerizing power over the minds and judgments of others;
  • He will be hailed directly by infidels as the Messiah and indirectly so by fallen-away Christians;
  • He will come at a time of national unrest and global financial crisis;
  • He will come at a time when the children of Israel are militarily engaged with those around them and the blood of many innocent people will be spilt;
  • The whole world will rejoice at his coming and readily accept his authority over them;
  • He will suffer a grave wound from which he will miraculously recover, albeit through demonic power;
  • And then, things really get bad!

PEDRO:

If the people of this con-man actually knew the Bible, they would not be so easily brainwashed.

1. For one, in the Bible it states that the numbers 666 will be the mark IN their head or IN their right forehand not the arm. So why does Jose have it on his arm and not encouraging his followers to do what it says in the Bible… maybe because he doesn’t know the Bible?  (Revelation 13:16)

2. The Bible also says that the anti-Christ will have a blow to the head. So where is the blow to the head that this man has— nowhere?  (Revelation 13:3)

3. The anti-Christ is able to perform miracles. What ones has Jose done— none?  (Revelation 13:13-14)

4. And finally, what happens if this con-man dies, what will his followers think?

In the Bible, Jesus states not to follow those who claim to be Christ and that he has said it ahead of time to know not to be deceived (Luke 21:8). Jose first claimed to be Jesus, and now the anti-Christ. Well, this guy is clearly mental. How sad for those who are brainwashed by him. It reminds me of a multi-level marketing company. All I can do is pray for his salvation and to repent before the King comes back.

BOB:

All this talk about Anti-Christ! Doesn’t anybody care about Uncle Apocalypse?

JOLENE:

This man is very dangerous and needs to be stopped! How pathetic that he thinks he’s Jesus Christ? What he needs is to be hospitalized in a mental institution! He could possibly be the Anti-Christ! Being Hispanic, I am very disappointed in the thousands of Hispanic Communities that have chosen to listen to his CR-P! Stop being so ignorant and weak, because that is what you are doing… being WEAK and IGNORANT! Every Christian out there needs to start praying very hard to God and asking him to rid of this insane man! No sin? C’mon now? I cannot be too sure of it… but I am almost positive that this man’s mother did not raise him like this! I am sure she is very, very, disappointed! He has brainwashed thousands of people and has ruined families, marriages, and even spoken bad about our Pope? Anybody that has to say follow me because I’m Jesus is Crazy, Insane, and Ignorant.  The people who follow him are just as ignorant as he is!

DALIA:

I REALY WISH THAT THIS GUY CAN PROVE TO ME ABOUT EVERYTHING HE SAYS AND I REALY HOPE THAT HE AND HIS READERS READ THIS AND I HOPE THAT ONE DAY I CAN MEET THIS MAN AND TELL HIM ABOUT THE REAL JESUS CHRIST AND PROVE TO HIM THAT WHAT HE SAID IS WRONG AND TELL HIM ABOUT THE REAL GOD AND THE REAL TURTH AND ABOUT HIS LOVE AND WHO HE REALLY IS.

THIS IS REALY SAD CUZ ITS PEOPLE LIKE THIS THAT MAKES US REAL CHRISTAINS LOOK LIKE A JOKE!

I JUST HOPE THAT HE CAN BE STOPPED BUT NO ONE CAN.  ONLY GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT AND ONE DAY WILL REVEAL EVEYTHING HE THINKS HE’S HIDING AND EVERY LIE HE’S BEEN SAYING TO PEOPLE.

I JUST HOPE HE FINDS THAT REAL GOD AND REPENTS FOR EVEYTHING HE’S BEEN SAYING AND DOING CUZ WHEN HE GETS JUDGED BY THE REAL GOD IN HEAVEN HE WILL GO STRAIT TO HELL AND BE BURNED FOR ETERNATY… AND THE PEOPLE THAT FOLLOWED HIM AND KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING IS WRONG!

I WILL PRAY FOR U GUYS AND I TELL U THERE IS NO ONE OUT THERE OR GREATER AND MORE POWERFUL THEN THE GOD IN HEAVEN.   THANK U AND GOD BLESS U.

DAN:

I suspect that the guy attracts followers because they want an excuse for continuing in their sins. I doubt if he will attract too much attention & followers.

YASMIN:

To start with, if God would come to earth none of us would be here. And I believe his followers are so blind because they don’t read or understand the bible, this man is putting the bible in his own words and the people that don’t read or understand falls in his lies. If they only knew that all this that’s happening is written in the true word of God! And what’s sad about it is that all of them would be joining him in hell because of their ignorance. This man is just living off of people’s money, if he was the true God he would not need people to offer him cars, companies and their money, because God is the owner of all there is on earth because he made it and he also has the power to rule it whenever he feels like it.

LEEROY:

I’m a shamed to be a human being, knowing that I live in a time that people still believe in idiots like this guy. If you belong to this cult you are the dumbest of the dumb, the weakest of the weak minded and you are slowing down the intellectual evolution of the world. I hope the end is soon so all of these morons can be killed. Maybe the next race will get it right and abolish religion all together. No one represents God, not the pope, or any preacher and especially not this sick man.

FATHER JOE:

Sounds like there is plenty of sickness to go around. You have a very strange hope, indeed. Apart from the rejection of faith, in your anger is there not a terminal hatred of humanity itself? Further, if the race of man should run its course on this planet, why should we think that the intelligent termites (if evolution should dictate) that follow us will fare any better?

DON:

Besides, the number is 616, not 666. It is the number for Nero, and original scrolls have been found at Oxyrinchus showing the number as 6 1 6.

FATHER JOE:

Actually, the number is debated. Certain manuscripts read 616 (3rd century) in reference to the Book of Revelation. It is possible that this is original although most texts give 666. I believe the Latin Vulgate, which is the official Bible of the Catholic Church, gives 666. Some researchers think that the numerology differs because 666 is a code for the Emperor Nero while 616 points to Caligula. Both were certainly anti-Christs in their own right.

JORDYS:

I totally agree with what you guys are saying. This is man is insane, and he uses reverse psychology, and plays around with the Bible’s words to mess with people’s minds. Unfortunately, some people are actually fooled by his clear tricks. However, there must be some action taken soon. This issue will continue to increase, and people will continue following him, leading to the Apocalypse, thus, Armageddon. This man is insane, and it is almost as if he would do exactly anything and everything possible to get what he wants.

BILL:

I would give more credibility to someone who displayed a fraction of the humility set by the example of someone ….say ….like St. Francis. Maybe if we let God deal with this man… he will go away?

MOO:

“The Pope is Christ’s vicar, but unlike your Mister Miranda, he does not claim to be God.”  The Catholic Church is claiming that the Pope is unmistaken though, isn’t it?

BRITTANY:

Let us remember the tragedy at Jones Town. 30 years later those images still haunt me. Those people then and these people now are victims. These people are vulnerable and brainwashed; it is only a matter of time before something really bad happens. It is already evident that these people will do anything for their “God” Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda. Let us not forget the horrendous power of an organized cult.

JOSE ARTURO:

Alena….la que escribió el 1er mensaje en este foro.  Maldita loca…. Tu si que esta pérdida. Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda, es un loco con inteligencia que se esta aprovechando de la situación, ya que en la política no se puede por que es bastante cerrada, pero el tipo es un loco y se aprovecha de las mentes débiles como la de Alena. Que pendejada esta, un tipo que te dice a ti que no hay pecado, que te drogues y hagas orgías con tu tía y abuela. Que pendejada. Todavía hay Indios en America.

FATHER JOE:

Certainly she is deceived about Miranda. He is as you say, a smart fellow who is deliberately taking advantage of others, particularly the gullible. As to the sexual immorality, I do not know much about this element; what troubles me is that Catholics could be so easily led astray.

ALEX RIVERA:

The “Holy Spirit” which we all know is basically the presence of “God” himself which is everywhere at the same time 2 or 3 people congregate in his name to worship “Him” to better explain it; would have left the earth so would death, according to the bible people would suffer such agony and terror that they will seek death and not find it, if he were the “Jesus” or “Anti-Christ” he claims to be then according to “Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda” “God is a liar…My opinion is he has committed Blasphemy against the “Holy Spirit” in which according to the “Bible” is a sin without forgiveness. So with this being Blogged let’s let these things come to pass so that the word of “God” is fulfilled and keep this man and his followers in our prayers so that “God” may have mercy on their souls. May God bless us all, Amen!

FATHER JOE:

Father Joe: I will try to parse what you wrote. (1) The divine presence is indeed omnipresent. That is true, not simply about the Holy Spirit, but about the Triune God. (2) It is Jesus who tells us that he is present when we gather with others to pray. (3) This passage you write makes no sense: “…would have left the earth so would death, according to the bible people would suffer such agony and terror that they will seek death and not find it…” The clauses do not link up in a coherent manner. I have no idea what you are trying to say. (4) You are right that Miranda is not the Christ although he may be a minor antichrist. God is not a liar; about this your insight is also correct. Miranda’s claims are blasphemous and erroneous. (5) There has been much conjecture about the unforgivable sin. Many churchmen have regarded it as suicide. But if one condemns the works of the Holy Spirit as demonic it would logically be very difficult, if not impossible, to embrace the mercy from that same Spirit. (6) We can pray for the repentance and conversion to true faith of this man and his followers.

ALEX RIVERA:

Just wanted to add the fact that the “Anti-Christ” comes after the second coming of “Jesus” so he has the order in which they happen correctly but that’s all he has.

FATHER JOE:

Throughout history there have been many antichrists. It refers to any and all who reject and oppose Christ and his Church. The term also signifies a false Christ or counterfeit messiah. This is not to deny the possibility of a singular apocalyptic antichrist; however, many authorities suggest that this pointed to the Emperor Nero or possibly another tyrant of pagan Rome who persecuted the early Church.

ALEX RIVERA:

Pentecostal Christian church is how I congregate and I’ve seen the “Holy Spirit” in action so he must be fibbing, how do I know it’s the “Holy Spirit” and not some person looking silly jumping up & down screaming gibberish? Come to a Spanish speaking Pentecostal Christian Church and find out for yourself.

FATHER JOE:

While I have known Pentecostals in love with the Lord, it is traditionally regarded as a cult itself. As a Catholic priest I could never encourage others to join its ranks, but at least they do not worship a contemporary man as Jesus Christ. However, there is the Catholic Charismatic Renewal which expresses many of the lesser gifts without neglecting the greater gifts of the Spirit in our Christian faith and in the sacraments.

ALEX RIVERA:

No I’m not saying it’s the real religion or the best church or the only way to feel the “Holy Spirit” but it’s the only place I’ve experienced it many times so I can guarantee it. Definition for Church: The body of all Christians.  May God bless us all, Amen!

FATHER JOE:

God bless you!

MATTHEW RANGEL:

As many of you know Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda is not Christ. The time for the real one draws near. This will happen in our life time. The earth is getting ready for a new beginning. In the near future, horrible things are to come. Always remember who you serve and that there is a plan of action that must happen. So whatever happens— DO NOT lose your faith. Remember, if you lose someone close to you that individual will be in a better place, so don’t get mad at God. The path will soon be set for the second coming, so you all should be ready now. Go fourth and teach the Lord’s teachings to others so that they too will be saved. Be strong with the Lord and do what he asks. In the coming years great events will soon unfold. Always do what is right; that is if it will please God, do it, if it won’t, then don’t. Never lose hope for God will ALWAYS be there.

3 Responses

  1. It appears that he is demented and his followers have been fooled – not unlike the followers of Jim Jones and “Reverend” Sun Myung Moon. I believe that any person who knows Scripture and who has faith will see this immediately.

  2. Jose Miranda needs to first realize that religious writings are the writings that come from people. Of course, they tell you that they come from God, the concept they exploit, in order to have so much power over people as to make them believe that what’s in the books is what’s really going on.

    FATHER JOE: While it is true that people can write religious works; a distinction must be made with the inspired Scriptures. The Church regards the Bible as both the words of men and the Word of God. The Holy Spirit uses human instruments to express his revelation to us. There is no duplicity or deliberate deception in this regard. God is the true or primary author of the Bible. However, he uses human beings, with all their talents and shortcomings. People of faith believe they have been given a great gift. It may be that you do not have this gift. We would ask you to show the same level of deference as Catholicism shows to the sciences. We believe in the complementarity of truth and in a “faith seeking understanding.” While there are certain fundamentalists who view faith as at war with reason; such is not the Catholic way. That is why scientists are regularly invited to the Vatican and work in our universities. We welcome men and women, believers and atheists, to explore the mysteries of creation. Not all religions are the same. The cult of Miranda is very far removed from conventional religion and he has made himself the enemy of Catholicism.

    Christ is just a fictional character, if you take into account human nature, and know people enough to know what they are capable of, and enough to conclude that this can only be human writings.

    FATHER JOE: Actually, there are early non-Christian writings that assert to the life, ministry and death of Jesus. He was no fiction. It disappoints me that you would assert such a thing given that historical inquiry admits to his existence and that of the apostles. The conflict with atheists is over whether he was God and that he returned from the dead.

    Then after freeing himself from the oppressive power of other people’s ideas and beliefs, he can free himself from thinking of himself as some fictional character.

    FATHER JOE: The ideas of men like you, especially in their love of negation, can become their own source of oppression. The Communists had similar notions and the Soviet system collapsed while the Church still marches on. The fiction or lie is that there is no God, that we are alone, or worse, a cosmic accident.

    He simply gives people too much credit by believing them to such an extent as to want to turn himself into their imagination. There are so many vulnerable victims like that out there, who also fall prey for the ideas that cannot be proven to be untrue, but untrue anyway.

    FATHER JOE: Miranda’s doctrines are contrived and convoluted. About that I can agree. However, Catholicism is the Mother of Western civilization. When I look at the long list of scientists, artists, musicians, authors, etc., I am moved at how the Church has helped the human spirit to soar. We are at the center of discussions about the sanctity of life and the dignity of man. Ours is not a Church of victims, but sons and daughters of God, brothers and sisters to one another. The message of the Church is one of hope and peace. You may not be convinced of the Church’s doctrinal statements; but the Church still seeks dialogue in reference to the natural law and efforts to make this a better world.

  3. “The time for the real one draws near. This will happen in our life time.”

    That is precisly what the Virgin Mary at Medjugorje has promised since her first appearnce there on 6/24/81, the feast of John the Baptist. “The world will end in your lifetimes, children.” 3 days advance notice will be given. A permament sign, “not of this world” will appear on “Cross Hill,” where the Virgin’s first appearances were. “Mankind will deny the miracle” by proffering arcane scientific explanations, showing utterly the complete loss of faith among mankind. As predicted at La Salette (1846), “a rain of fire will fall on priest and sinner alike….. Paris will be aflame and Marseilles under water… many will die of fright.”

    Medjugorje is the first prophecy to put an END DATE on the prophecy:

    “in your lifetimes.” The 4 boys and 2 girls were each born in or around 1965.

    A similar prophecy (“The Warning”) was made at Garabandal, Spain in 1962, with the miraculous communion host offered from “the Angel” to Conchita Gonzalez, as predicted publicly 10 days before. The film of it is on Youtube.

    Books by Carroll, Laurentin, Sullivan, Connell, all cite the Medjugorje events in detail, as does the medjugorje.com website.

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