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Fallen Angels & Men in Hell

I suspect even the damned seek to run away from the truth of perdition, seeking to make some semblance of heaven in hell. What powers remain to them? They still have intellect and will.  C. S. Lewis may have been on to something in his book THE GREAT DIVORCE. The damned fashioned their worlds through imagination and separated themselves ever more and more from one another. The reality would be most unpleasant. Might they seek escape through the phantasms of the mind just as mortal men turn to drugs or the bottle?  Such seems to be a symptom of self-preoccupation and self-destruction. 

What are the characteristics of the damned? Let us look first at the saved. At the very beginning of the catechism, we are asked about our ultimate meaning. Why did God make us? The answer is short and decisive— to know him, to love him, to serve him, and to give him glory.  The damned do not want to know God and either hate or are indifferent to him. This failure to love will also show itself with an impoverishment regarding charity to our neighbor.  The devil’s sin becomes that of fallen humanity. Milton’s Satan swears, “I will not serve!” We read in the epic poem, PARADISE LOST: “The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a Heav’n of Hell, a Hell of Heav’n. . . Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav’n.”  The saints are about God’s business in the world. They worship him at Mass and take their adoration and praise with them into heaven. By contrast, a fallen humanity might go through the motions, but their love is purely for show. They might curse and throw God’s name around, but they rarely if ever pray. They miss more Masses than they attend. As I stated before, if they cannot worship God once a week for an hour, why should they want to enter heaven where the saints and angels give endless glory to God? 

Many people wrongly assume that the souls of saints become angelic after death. However, this is not the teaching of the Church. When a human being dies, his body becomes a corpse, and his soul becomes a ghost.  Human ghosts are regarded as helpless. They have no angelic powers. It is for this reason that after the final judgment, the righteous dead will be restored body and spirit. Like the glorified Christ, they will be reconstituted albeit like Jesus able to appear in locked rooms and no longer subject to sickness, suffering or death.  By contrast, the angels were never born and are not human.  They have no true bodies or physical extension. While we are born in time, the number of angels is fixed.  Just like men, some angels rebelled against God. Fallen angels followed Satan and are called devils or demons.  Fallen human beings are called the damned.  They are not the same and fallen humanity is largely subject to the will of the demonic.  While it is generally accepted that demons can sometimes evade or escape or extend hell; many if not most authorities view the fallen dead of humanity as imprisoned in hell without any possible respite. However, the Church has not given a certain answer to this query.

The Closed & Locked Door

The gravity of the parable in Luke 13:22-30 is not about the dimensions of the door but the fact that it is closed. No one will enter heaven except those that the Lord allows to do so. Hell is not simply another path or door that might be chosen but also regards being locked outside the kingdom of the just. St. Augustine writes in THE CITY OF GOD about two competing cities.  The great doctor of the Church argued that in this world it is often difficult or impossible to determine the kingdom to which a person belongs. Wicked people sometimes do good things.  Good people sometimes commit grievous wrongs. All will be made clear on the other side of the mortal veil. 

We are reminded of a two-fold movement, first, pilgrims toward God and the land of promise; and second, the God who comes searching for us. God knows those who belong to him. When it comes to the damned, some will jump ship before reaching the promised shore. They may literally knock on the door to God’s house, but they will never come in. Self-deception can take one to the very entry of heaven but without the key hidden in the human heart, no one can enter. A single step inside would bring the full weight of truth crushing down. Lies have no place under the light of divine truth. God’s revelation about this takes into consideration human freedom and the tension between virtue and vice.  The Lord readily showers his grace upon those who are disposed to receive his help and life. Unfortunately, others shun the rain of God’s gifts and favor.

Ours is no angry God who hates sinners as depicted in radical Calvinism.  God loves us all, even those who would reject him.  Indeed, he loves us so much that he is willing both to die for us and to give us space to exercise our own freedom, even if that means letting us go. There is no annihilation as supposed by the Adventists. God would love us into heaven but that same love will follow us into hell with a fire that can never be extinguished. If heaven is the proper home for love, then hell is where that love is never accepted. That love brings joy to some and agony to others.

The Broad Road Leads to Destruction

Matthew 7:13-14 urges us to enter through the narrow gate and that “the broad road leads to destruction.”  Our Lord tells us that salvation demands struggle (taking up the cross to follow him) and that there are few who take the narrow gate into the kingdom. This summons to mind the somewhat comical door to the ground level bathroom in my rectory. It is a half-door, fondly called the “Hobbit” door to the toilet. It requires that anyone who is somewhat wide to squeeze into the room. Visitors have laughed about it but those of us who are on the large side find it disconcerting. While it may be unlikely, it is hard to shake the prospect of getting stuck. Indeed, it precipitated a story that I told parish friends.  Preaching on how our salvation is not a private affair, I insisted that it had a communal or interpersonal dynamic.  While we must each make our own choices, we can assist one another in making and keeping them. Sharing a mental image, I related imagining myself standing before the entry way to heaven.  The door is open, but the opening is very small.  Despite many efforts, I cannot squeeze through. Suddenly friends appear that I have known in life. Yes, this is a somewhat elaborate fantasy. Those already in heaven started to pull and pull, so that I might join them.  Meanwhile, I am holding up the line. More friends start to push me from behind. While it might be a peculiar and comical image, I would offer it as a depiction for the communion of saints.  Starting at the font when we come in the arms of parents and godparents, we never come to God alone.  Intercession plays an essential role in our approach to the Lord and our life in the kingdom.  Jesus establishes a “church” or community of faith.  He gives us sacraments and one another.  It might take a lot of pulling and pushing, but those who love the Lord will eventually get through that small door or narrow gate. Maybe the struggle at the entry itself is another indication of purgatory?  

How many would give up and select the wider gate? Separated from others, one would be alone. Would there be any interest in taking the narrow gate to see God if love for him is lacking? Too many take the easy way out. Unfortunately, in the parable this route leads to destruction or hell.

Graced or Imbued with the Divine Life

Just as the Spirit of God makes possible the transformation of the Eucharistic gifts into the real presence of the risen Christ; this same Spirit configures or changes us, forming us into the likeness of Christ. It all begins with faith and baptism. The infusion of grace makes possible a spiritual transformation. We are disposed or made into tabernacles or suitable vessels for God, living temples of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 3:16; 2 Cor. 6:16). Of course, any and each Person of the Trinity draws to itself the fullness of God.  As the classical definition reminds us, there are three divine Persons in one divine nature— one God. We can distinguish between the Persons of the Trinity but must be vigilant against heresy. Some fall prey to modalism wherein the triune God is defined by his activities and not by name. Others wrongly speak about the divine Persons as distinct gods, signifying a practical polytheism. Both constitute grievous sins against the divine godhead.  

We are adopted sons and daughters of the Father. We are kin to Christ and Mary is our Queen Mother.  God the Father first sends the eternal Word, his Son, to ransom us from sin. Next God sends his Spirit that we might become his adopted children (Galatians 4:4-7). The Spirit of God that hovered over the waters of creation now makes possible something of the divine life in us. We are invited to enter God the Trinity. Christ promises to send the Advocate, his Spirit of truth upon the Church (John 14:16-17). It is within the context of salvation history that the Trinity comes to light as the central revelation of the Gospel. Jesus reveals the face of God. It is in Jesus that we appreciate God as Abba or Father. It is in Jesus that we will receive the Holy Spirit.  God communicates himself to us through Christ, the living Word. All this is so that we might have a genuine relationship with the Lord. It is a basic principle that you cannot have a relationship with someone you do not know.  We are called to know and to love the Lord. While we can speak about the Trinitarian or inner life of God within us by grace; it must also be admitted that we cannot trap or utterly contain the divine presence. God saturates us and yet we make poor sponges; he drips and leaks from us. It is not simply God inside us but also all around us. We leave puddles. We soak those with whom we come into contact. God exudes or emanates from the saints.  Changing from the image of water to light, that is why artists often portray saints with halos or whole-body auras. They do not hinder the light but amplify it for all to see. Something of this is intimated with the Virgin Mary who responds to the angel, “My soul doth magnify the Lord. And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Savior” (Luke 1:46-47 – Douay-Rheims).

I am reminded of a child coloring the pictures of a coloring book.  Little children always fail to color between the lines with their crayons. Similarly, we are colored or given life by God, but the colors of his presence also fail to stay between the lines. They cross lines and bleed through the pages. Again, we cannot completely contain or trap the divine presence.  But this is okay. If faith is real, then it must be shared. We must give away what we have.  Faith is not private but communal. Yes, the goal of every Christian is to go to heaven. But more than this, we should want to take others with us. What many fail to appreciate is the identification of heaven with the Trinity. We are called to live within God forever. Knowing the beatific vision, everywhere the saints look, they see God.

We often view love or charity as either a sentiment of the heart or as an action of benevolence. The measure of the Cross would have us evaluate it in terms of sacrifice and surrender. This is the ruler imposed upon every married couple and parent, as well as any who would be a missionary for Christ.  The command of Jesus to take up the cross and to follow is an order to love one another. While not negating the value of our own life and happiness, we look beyond ourselves to prize those who are dear to us.  The radical nature of Christ’s Gospel is that this command must be applied to those who are hard to love.  This love that so often falls short among humanity is given an infinite value or measure in Christ and his relationship with the Father.  Indeed, infinite or perfect love must be granted the highest standing that we can imagine, literally personhood. It is for this reason that we speak of God as love or of the Holy Spirit as personified LOVE. Those who would be graced with the inner life of God must necessarily share in this divine LOVE.   We read in John 14:15-17: “If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate to be with you always, the Spirit of truth, which the world cannot accept, because it neither sees nor knows it. But you know it, because it remains with you, and will be in you.” This reference to remaining “with” and “in” us is not figurative but real.  We tend to be good at explaining the real presence in the Eucharist, but we often stumble in appreciating this real presence in the human heart.  Do we treat our “persons” or “bodies” with the respect to which they are entitled as vehicles for the divine? This is so very important that Jesus will repeat himself, “Whoever loves me will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our dwelling with him” (John 14:23).

Beware a False Christ with No Power to Help Us

Put bluntly, the counterfeit Jesus of posturing Christians has no power to save. He is not real.  Such souls will have a true existential shock when they encounter the true Messiah and Savior. Those who trust in the Lord are summoned to a transformation in Christ. Mentally configuring Jesus into our own alter ego is a backward act that serves no purpose other than self-deception. Of course, this false Jesus may have substance in that the demonic can masquerade as holy personages and deities. This assessment of idols extends back to the first martyrs. They suffered torture and death at the bloody spectacle of the arena for failing to worship the emperor and the pagan pantheon of gods. The associated bloodlust was a sure indication that the pagan deities had an association with the demons and the devil.  We must always be wary of a darkness that feigns being light.

Saints are made on earth, not in heaven.  We are molded by our actions and by the intervention of divine grace.  Actual grace helps us to behave as God’s children in this world, ensuring that we will be receptive and retentive of saving grace. Sanctifying grace makes us worthy of heaven and the beatific vision.  Finding an analogy in modern science fiction, numerous futurists predict as an alternative to terraforming planets, that a super science might seek to biologically augment human beings to accommodate planetary environments otherwise inhospitable for human life. While this is farfetched, it is our conviction that divine grace and the sacraments condition us for the sacred environment of heaven.  Humanity must be healed of original sin, weaned from concupiscence, and made able to breathe the air of eternal joy over that of proximate pleasures.  The mutable and mortal must give way to the perfect and immortal.  We must be reborn or made brand new. Similarly, the absence of grace will not only fail to sustain the new man but leave the natural man gasping for air. This world is passing.  Heaven is the only way to get off before it is too late.  The devil would prefer to leave us stranded. That is enough for him to steal souls. But the devil is not satisfied with inaction, he exploits human weakness and fear. He imposes vice over virtue. He would condition us for a habitation of bondage and darkness. It is somewhat ironic that we associate hell with fire because it is a flame that offers no illumination. It is a fire that blinds and casts all in the darkness of night. By contrast, our Lord calls us to a new beginning, a new day.   

Hell Bound: Dissent & Dishonoring God

What is heaven? Heaven is where we find God. Sin reflects a prevailing failure to love, either in hatred or indifference. The damned would not want any part of this love, either here on earth or in heaven. God is not a cherished part of their life. They might readily manipulate others, but they refuse to really care for their neighbor. What do saints and angels do in heaven? They worship God as the Holy, Holy, Holy. By contrast, if so-called Catholics cannot tolerate an hour a week at Sunday Mass, then why would they want to spend eternity at the nuptial banquet for the Lamb of God?

Those who reject the testimony of Scripture, dissenting from the teachings of the Church, already have one foot in hell. We are obliged to accept what has been revealed by God. We must obey the commandments. None of us should cast ourselves outside the pale of Christ, the one who is the Light of the World. What the children of darkness presume as enlightenment is in truth error and eternal night. While it is true that saints need not always be right, just holy; there must still be an assent from Catholics to the foundational truths and values of the faith. Otherwise, one is saying, “Not Thy will, but my will be done.” This is a critical contradiction to the kerygma, itself. One does not have to have a degree in theology but one should appreciate the creed and the commandments. Dissenters will often fashion a caricature of Jesus that is in contradiction to the one who appears in the New Testament and in the constant preaching of the Church. What dissenters fail to grasp is that “their Jesus” stands neither on the firm foundation of Scripture nor of Tradition. Those who would abandon the barque of Peter must seek refuge upon the worthless driftwood or flotsam of human whim and proximate pleasures. Instead of the moral base grounded upon natural and divine positive law, values emerge from a sham individualism that has no rudder other than the media and politics of secular humanism. The guideposts are literally the deadly sins. The worst of the lot is arguably pride as it most earned the ire of Christ against the pharisees. It makes a place for the other six sins. It poisons communion with God.

Providence & Human Freedom

The stopgap of purgatory fuels our trust in Christ’s mercy but should not fool us into thinking it is a certain backdoor to heaven. We must aim for heaven. Anything less and we risk missing the target altogether. None of this means that salvation is a gamble. Those with a faith realized in loving obedience can walk in the sure and certain hope of their salvation in Christ. There is a profound mystery in this regard between the providence of God and human freedom, in either cooperating with or inhibiting the movement of divine grace.

As believers, the prospect of perdition might seem harsh, but God loved us so much that he wanted our loving response to him to be free. He could have made us like mindless robots or insects controlled by instinct; however, we were made in the image of God— by nature shy of the dignity belonging to angels, but as consciously aware, unique intermediaries between the spiritual and material worlds.

Divine judgment might seem harsh but ultimately, God gives us what we want. But do we really know what we want? I suspect that many have a false view of heaven where egos are bloated and narcissism reigns. This is a far cry from the Christian view of heaven as a realm focused entirely upon the Trinity. We must become God-centered with a selfless empathy for others. Many self-possessed people would object to a necessary deflation or spiritual emptying, so that Christ might be all in all. Indeed, many apparently confuse the definitions of heaven and hell.

I have imagined that the judgment of God comes along with “a great awakening,” a moment of personal awareness where we see ourselves as we really are. Note that this supernatural divulgement comes at the end of life because to see ourselves as God sees us would be horrifying for most and many would likely drop dead. Such judgment relies both upon mercy and truth. The Lord will salvage what he can but in the final analysis the truth prevails. There can be no deception or false humility under this light of verity. God will not force us to love him or waylay souls over the threshold into heaven.

Fátima Confirms a Crowded Hell

Given his identity as a divine Person and the Savior, there is no avoiding the significance of Christ’s constant emphasis upon the reality and prospect of hell for many. Those critics who are quick to say that Jesus does not judge are fooling themselves and are in denial about our Lord’s stance in the Gospels. Indeed, while the number 144,000 for the Elect in the Book of Revelation may be symbolic, it is telling that the Bible admits to only a select few being saved. While there is a universal call to salvation, the unpleasant truth remains that while all humanity is the beneficiary of redemption, many misuse their freedom in rejecting the gift of salvation. We might hope and pray that the devil is lonely and that most go to heaven, but this is neither indicated by Scripture nor by the constant evidence of human iniquity. Indeed, the many apparitions of Mary attest to hell. The vision given to the children of Fátima is particularly frightening:

01. “. . . a vast sea of fire. Plunged in this fire, we saw the demons and the souls of the damned.”

02. “The latter were like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, having human forms.”

03. “They were floating about in that conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames which issued from within themselves, together with great clouds of smoke.”

04. “Now they fell back on every side like sparks in huge fires, without weight or equilibrium, amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair . . .”

05. “The demons were distinguished from the souls of the damned by their terrifying and repellent likeness to frightful and unknown animals, black and transparent like burning coals.”

The main element of the vision is fire. Lúcia admits that if it were not for the Blessed Mother’s promise of protection, they would have died from fright at the horrendous spectacle. It is interesting that she discerns a distinction between damned humanity and angelic demons. Men and women retain their human forms even though they have been blackened by the flames and have become translucent, thus lacking substance.

It is peculiar that the damned are thrashed about by explosive flames from within themselves. Note what Jesus says in John 14:23, “Whoever loves me will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our dwelling with him.” As with the natural world, the supernatural hates vacuum. Either we become temples to the Spirit of God and grace or else, something demonic will come to nest in the human heart. Hell is not simply around them but inside them.

The demons are similarly burned and transparent but are in the form of terrible beasts or monsters. There is nothing left of their angelic beauty.  

Evil Persons or Just Persons Doing Evil Acts?

I read a recent posting that quoted the Russian orthodox priest, John of Kronstadt, on the matter of evil. He said that evil is simply “a chance misfortune, an illness, a devilish reverie.” He went on to say, “But the very essence of the person is the image of God, and this remains in him despite every disfigurement.” I immediately felt a need to make a qualification. It is broken down into thirteen points.

First, it is true that every human person is made in the image of God. However, this is a characteristic of every human being, both the Christian and the unregenerate. This speaks to the natural dignity of all human beings.

Second, our spiritual adoption as sons and daughters of the Father through faith and baptism takes this to a higher supernatural level. This adds upon our human dignity, divinizing or perfecting our nature by grace. Even the damned in hell were made in the image of God, it is more important that we should be remade into the likeness of Christ through the transformative power of divine grace.

Third, the essence of a person is the core of who he is.  This sense of identity is intricately tied up with all the things that make each of us who we are— our values, faith, relationships, learning, emotions, etc. This is the awareness of self that we take with us in our trajectory of existence. Angels are purely “spiritual persons.” Men and women are “human persons,” literally spiritual-corporeal composites. A human person is neither a corpse nor just a ghost. That is why the resurrection of the body is essential. (The infused soul is understood as the locus for the mind and will. Dietrich von Hildebrand would also distinguish the “heart”). Jesus as the Son of God shares our human nature and even has a human soul; however, he is also the eternal Logos or Word and is thus a “divine person.” Personhood answers the question, “Who are you?” Jesus is God.    

Fourth, the Catholic faith has a rich Christian anthropology that targets the human person, the plight of sin (both personal and original), his awareness, the matter of conscience, the value of virtue and the detriment of vice, and the supernatural impact of both sanctifying and actual grace.

Fifth, evil is not a mere accident like stumbling over a rock. While we reject strict determinism, nothing really happens by chance. The mysterious providence of God both directs an active divine intervention and permits a passive tolerance for natural maladies and the use and misuse of human freedom.

Sixth, fault is always on our side of the equation. All moral evil has a human or angelic agent. The primordial fall itself unleashed the further calamity of natural evil. Creation is good but damaged.

Seventh, while evil or sin might be likened to an illness or contagion, our Lord has given us the remedy in faith and the sacraments. More than a devilish “reverie,” evil is a negation, a miscalibration— more a deception than a fantasy. 

Eighth, while our Lord can forgive evil acts, they cannot be blindly excused. Our Lord surrenders his life for sinners, as an act of satisfaction or propitiation for sin. He pays the price we cannot pay. Mercy is real but justice must be preserved. We must want to be forgiven. We must know a disposition in faith and sorrow for forgiveness. Indeed, it is evil that makes the incarnation and the subsequent redemptive act of Christ so very crucial. The gravity of evil is not in the acts but in the “persons” that commit them. We are properly formed by sacrifice and virtue. We are disfigured by selfishness and vice. The saints cooperate with divine grace and live out the commandments in love. The damned reject the favor and helps of God, preferring rebellion and self over others and the Lord. Putting it bluntly, if you do bad things then you may become a “bad” man or woman.

Ninth, our likeness to Christ can be forfeited by serious sin. It is a dogmatic teaching that there is no such thing as absolute evil, either angelic or human. Such would constitute the absurdity of metaphysical negation. This teaching is linked to the teaching of hell and the divine economy against annihilation. Nevertheless, evil need not be absolute to be damning. Unrepentant sin and hubris corrupt the person and distorts the likeness made possible by grace. While repentance and conversion are possible, a pattern of iniquity makes it increasingly unlikely. Such people become what Dr. Scott Peck calls “the People of the Lie.” While the Lord’s mercy is immense, his judgment is real and severe.

Tenth, priests would have penitents confess evil acts but ultimately their focus is upon the status of the person. Absolution is directed toward a person needing forgiveness and healing.  A condition for mercy is sorrow for sin and amendment of life. The priest wants to fill the void left by sin in the person.  The devil has nothing to give. We need both sanctifying and actual grace. A person without such grace is like the walking dead.  Evil does not have to be absolute to be terrible and disfiguring. A Picaso painting of a person might be judged as a masterpiece, but if anyone actually resembled it, he or she would be judged a monstrosity. Any natural goodness becomes mute if we should die and face judgment while in deadly sin.  Again, one can be evil without that iniquity being absolute. Such evil does not even require us to clearly hate God or neighbor. Indifference and not caring is sufficient to damn a soul.

Eleventh, most if not all of us wear masks, even virtuous men and women. Humility might hide the advanced compassion and holiness of a good person. We would urge the saints not to hide their light under a basket as it can guide others to the truth. Some would argue that sin and evil is a mask that certain people place before their goodness as creatures made in the image of God. I suspect that what is more common is a mask of false sanctity and charity worn to disguise that which is foul and selfish. There are also plenty of wolves in sheep’s clothing seeking to devour the flock. Is that not part of the scandal around abusive clergy? Yes, and about this we need an intense transparency. Evil must not be allowed to hide. Martin Luther argued for juridical imputation— that one is saved by disguise, literally allowing Jesus to stand before us and the Father. Catholicism would claim transformation— that the heavenly Father must see his Son alive inside of us.  The plight of sin is that it would deprive us of this indwelling and that supernatural advancement of human nature.

Twelfth, if evil can be a mask, it is a poor one that always disfigures our likeness, even when it is removed through divine judgment. Just as we can be perfected by grace, we can become corrupted by vice— we literally become the lie. I am reminded of an episode of The Twilight Zone entitled “The Masks.” Taking place on Mardi Gras, a dying man coerces his family members into wearing grotesque masks reflective of their dark personalities. When it comes time to remove them, their faces are found to be molded into the ugly caricatures.  Sin is more than hiding behind a lie. One can also become the lie.  

Thirteenth, Jesus speaks to how evil disfigures the person. Referencing the ungodly and hypocritical, he states: “You belong to your father the devil and you willingly carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he speaks in character, because he is a liar and the father of lies” (John 8:44). He also says: “Thus you bear witness against yourselves that you are the children of those who murdered the prophets; now fill up what your ancestors measured out! You serpents, you brood of vipers, how can you flee from the judgment of Gehenna?” (Matthew 23:31-33).

I become so infuriated with a presumptuous Pollyanna faith. We must remember that saints are made on earth, not in heaven. Salvation is a gift, but we must truly desire the gift. We are not promised perfect happiness in this world and death will not procure it for everyone. Evil is real and it is more than an accident or a mask to the good. It infects and corrupts and disfigures the person. Hell is real and the damned fashion it in the here-and-now. They carry it around with them. Like Milton’s Satan, they can cry out, “I myself am hell.” The tragedy is that many resist the grace and mercy of God. The two great motivations in the life of every Christian should be to worship the Lord and to save souls. Love is indeed the answer, but too often it is found wanting. We fail to pray. Many neglect the Mass. Too many are indifferent to the poverty, pain and oppression of others.

What Did the Pope Say about Interfaith Dialogue?

Pope Francis left his scripted remarks and spoke “spontaneously” to the youth of Singapore on Friday, September 13, 2024. The Holy Father made a distinction between a courageous person who seeks the truth as a “critical” thinker and the critic with “endless words” who offers “destructive criticism.” He asked them this question, “Do you have the courage to criticize but also the courage to let others criticize you?”

Impressed with the capacity of youth for interfaith dialogue, he stated: “This is very important because if you start arguing, ‘My religion is more important than yours…,’ or ‘Mine is the true one, yours is not true….,’ where does this lead?” One of the young people answered, “Destruction,” and the Pope responded, “That is correct.”

He went on to say, “Religions are seen as paths trying to reach God. I will use an analogy; they are like different languages that express the divine. But God is for everyone, and therefore, we are all God’s children. ‘But my God is more important than yours!’ Is this true? There is only one God, and religions are like languages that try to express ways to approach God. Some Sikh, some Muslim, some Hindu, some Christian. Understand? Yet, interfaith dialogue among young people takes courage. The age of youth is the age of courage, but you can misuse this courage to do things that will not help you. Instead, you should have courage to move forward and to dialogue.”

He went on to speak about the need for respect and the danger of bullying. He concluded by saying, “And now, in silence, let us pray for each other. In silence. May God bless all of us. In the future, when you are no longer young, but you are elderly and grandparents, teach all these things to your children. God bless you and pray for me, don’t forget! But pray for, not against!”

Is the Holy Father’s emphasis the methodology of dialogue or the reality of God as revealed in world religions? I suspect it is the former. It is true that interfaith dialogue does not go very far when the different sides disrespect and deride each other. People of conviction feel that they are right and take exception to challenges toward what they believe. Pope Francis is correct that we must resist the temptation to argue and name-call.  Civility demands that we temper our emotions, especially against criticisms that are quickly taken to heart and are painful.  Those of us with pugnacious natures, instinctively want to hit back.  History is largely written with such a lack of toleration that leads to violence, censorship, holy wars, torture, imprisonment and even death. The language of hate allows for no dialogue and little in the way of successful debates. Instead of discussing ideas, there is a harsh attack against persons— the opposition are decried as “heretics,” “heathens,” and “infidels.”

Each of us likely believes that his or her religion is the best or the truest, such is even the case for atheists who posit their non-religion or anti-religion as having a higher epistemological value. As Catholics, the most resolute believers are correct to maintain that our faith is the genuine revelation of God through the mediation of Jesus Christ. The New Covenant is the consummation of the Old. Both Judaism and Christianity are judged as true religions. Of course, a natural religion has been surpassed by a supernatural religion that understands God to be both one and a Trinity. Other religions may have elements of the truth, but they are also weighed down by serious errors. Traditionally, apologetics would list all the many false teachings and practices of these other belief systems. By contrast, Pope Francis is saying that this is not where dialogue begins. Such an approach closes minds to the truth and to any possible consensus. It is best to begin dialogue by examining the elements of faith that are shared.  This will vary between creeds. Catholics and Jews both embrace Abraham as our father in faith. We have taken the Hebrew Scriptures as our own. Islam also believes in one God and claims facets of a shared revelation. The Hindus are arguably polytheists, but some of their modern-day teachers suggest that their many deities may in truth be manifestations of a single God. Where such thinking will go, I cannot say. Even if there should be no or little congruence on matters of theology, dialogue can be judged as successful if we learn to live in peace and to work together for a better world where human rights and freedoms are respected.     

Yes, religions are seen as paths to reach God. However, we as Jews and Catholics understand religion as also the story of how God comes looking for us.  There is a two-fold movement. God establishes relationships (covenants) with his people. The analogy of religions as different languages to express the divine is accurate. Left unsaid is that some languages are better in their evocative and descriptive power. Christianity not only espouses God-talk but has been given the revelation of how the eternal Word becomes flesh. The lack of such an appreciation is a defect that handicaps all other religions. God gives us his Word in Scripture, but more importantly writes his revelation upon human flesh in the incarnation. Jesus is the face of God and the revelation of the Father. He is the way and the truth and the life.  There is no way to the Father except through him. Other religions, if they do not go off in the wrong direction, can only take their adherents to the door of the kingdom; it is Christ that lets us inside. His Church and the sacraments constitute the key to that door. 

Are we all God’s children? As in the catechism and at Vatican II, a distinction must be made. Spiritually, through faith and baptism, we are made adopted sons and daughters of the Father. It is in this sense of grace and a new creation, that those of other religions are not children of God. However, the meaning of Pope Francis is in the sense of creation. All in the human family are creatures and children of the earth. Our source is almighty God. Regeneration aside, we are all arguably children made in the image of God. We are creatures of flesh and blood and soul. We are so much more than the animals around us. This notion speaks to human dignity.  It is a major element of the Gospel of Life. In or outside the womb, God looks upon us with a Father’s love.

Knowing that he is speaking to a crowd of mixed faiths, Pope Francis asks that they might pray for each other in silence.  Notice that he prays that God might bless them, but he refrains from asserting the saving name of Jesus.  While we might question timidity regarding the name of Jesus and/or making the sign of the cross, we should remember Pope Francis’ words about courage. Certain Christians will not pray with Catholics. While we can pray the psalms with Jews, it is quite problematical to pray with non-Christians. We do not want to open such young people to rebuke or punishment from their own religious leaders. Importantly, we as Catholics must not subscribe to any form of religious indifferentism or the notion of universal salvation. Silent prayer is probably the best for all in such a situation.

ADDENDUM

Anyone with a smidgen of Italian can appreciate that the text on the Vatican website (yesterday) is not actually what the Pope said to young people in Singapore. Previous popes tended to be more careful with off-the-cuff or spontaneous remarks. Officially, the text that matters is the written one, today on the Vatican website and/or included in the published Acta.  

When I was informed about a translation change, I went immediately to the Vatican site. What the hell? The official translation had at least corrected the Pope’s remarks. Now, the Vatican has returned to what comes across as deeply problematical. Last night, the text read, “Religions are seen as paths trying to reach God.” Yes, this is true, regardless as to whether they do so. This morning it has been changed to “All religions are paths to God.” This is not true. Even those in false religions reject this notion. Reading further, the initial papal text asserted, “There is only one God, and religions are like languages that try to express ways to approach God.” Yes, this is true, even defective religions are efforts to approach the transcendent. But the new version is as wrong as wrong can get, “There is only one God, and religions are like languages, paths to reach God.” Not all religions target the true God. Indeed, it is Christ as the term of salvation that makes possible our reconciliation with the Father.  None are saved apart from Christ and his Church. Further, not all religions are the same. Satanism and demon worship are counted as religions, but there is no redemption, just alienation and loss. Certain religions worship false gods or even demons.