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Only God Can Judge Homosexuality #1 (Scripture)

When the topic of homosexuality is raised, immediately there are those who deny that we can make a moral evaluation. We are told, “It is not for us to judge, only God.”

Adapted New Hallmark Card for Gay Marriage

Yes, it must be admitted that God is the judge of such things, but that verdict is not pending but has already been expressed by his revealed Word:

“Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor boy prostitutes nor sodomites nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. That is what some of you used to be; but now you have had yourselves washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.” (1 Cor. 6:9-11)

“Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. They are gossips and scandalmongers and they hate God. They are insolent, haughty, boastful, ingenious in their wickedness, and rebellious toward their parents. They are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know the just decree of God that all who practice such things deserve death, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.” (Romans 1:26-32)

Discussion

MICHAEL:

His mercy endures forever.

There’s always the mercy of God for those who seek it with a contrite and sincere heart.

No one has to remain in a perpetual state of mortal sin.

Those who have disordered passions or unnatural desires can always ask God, our Lady, and St. Joseph for the gift, grace and virtue of Chastity. They will come around.

Chastity means living purely for God alone in a state of grace.

For the unrepentant reprobates, they will never know what they’ve missed out on. God leaves them to themselves and He always punishes in areas of disobedience— AIDS for instance.

DAN:

I have to admit to attempting to “argue” and “reason” with people in the “blogosphere.” I find that it is impossible— especially with those posting on anti-Catholic blogs. Any argument that I have offered that tries to be reasonable, is usually met with an amazing amount of name calling and anger.

Without even specifically mentioning homosexuality, or same sex attraction, I have been castigated, for even daring to suggest that perhaps the fulfillment of our personhood is better served by trying to over-come our tendencies rather than indulging them.

It seems that we’ve got ourselves a really, really, self-centered, immature culture at this time.

VISITOR:

In my opinion, homosexuals know that homosexuality is not natural. Virtually every living human being possesses a conscience— so do homosexual men and lesbian women.

There are numerous accounts illustrating how homosexuals and lesbians, who have rejected the lifestyle, almost instantly become targets of relentless abuse and harassment by those who remain in it. Clearly, crisis of conscience is at work behind that level of anger.

Today, narcissism reigns. Reality has become personal perspective. Lies have become the truth— but only to those who can’t face the truth. Or won’t.

Every one of us must grow up, eventually, either gracefully or kicking and screaming. Some of us may not grow up until the day we die.

May we all be in a state of grace when that day comes.

OPUS: (in reference to Hallmark same-sex card)

Hallmark has made a small percentage of their profits from me since I was teenager. They’ll make from me not another nickel.

LARA:

Only God can judge homosexuality. Only God can judge whether or not abortion is wrong. Only God can judge if euthanasia is murder. What is this?

When God said we must become as little children, He didn’t mean for us to interpret that statement literally, but you’d certainly think so from the statements made by those advocating homosexuality, abortion and euthanasia.

Reading and listening to the never-ending distortions of what’s right and what’s wrong is enough to send an adult’s head spinning off of their spine— imagine the effect all of this craziness has on children? For crying out loud, the animal kingdom appears less cruel to its own than are many human beings to other human beings. Animals can’t be human, but, evidently, many humans seem satisfied to take on the behavior of animals to justify their actions.

Enough! God said plenty about homosexuality, euthanasia, and abortion in His Bible, which, by the way, APPLIES TO THE WHOLE OF THE HUMAN RACE. That includes ALL OF US, not only to those of us who read its contents and follow its precepts.

Let the world exhort that insanity is sane by all of you wayward children (and you know who you are) who advocate sodomy, murder and every other perversion you’re currently advocating, in the vain attempt to clear your consciences— and you won’t, by the way.

But those of us trying to live Christian lives are not standing by to have the grossest distortions of right and wrong imposed upon our lives or upon the lives of our children.

Think we don’t have that right? Only God can judge.

DURCK:

Am I alone in interpreting as temper-tantrums all of this wailing coming from the homosexual community in that no one has a say in their behavior except for God? (Are they serious about this or do they not believe in God and are using Him as a diversion?)

Assuming they do believe, then yes, I imagine God will have the final say about their lives, after their consciences hand them over. Men or women who live the gay lifestyle are, indeed, free (willed) to live as they choose. After all, practicing sodomists and lesbians are, in truth, our brothers and sisters too.

However, when my homosexual and lesbian sisters and brothers imply that their lifestyle is moral and acceptable (by vainly legislating laws to that effect) and begin to impose that lifestyle on me, my children and those who have not chosen such a life, then I’m taking issue with that right here and right now.

And I will continue to do so with a clear conscience.

MAX:

“Only God can judge… but that verdict is not pending.”

On an objective basis one would be hard-pressed as a Catholic to argue with either part of that statement. . However, it is another matter on a subjective basis. There are many people who have done acts which are objectively wrong but after discerning their consciences and securing information from whatever source available which hey honestly considered reliable, decided on a course of action which turned out to be objectively wrong but for which they incur no subject moral guilt. This situation could arise from many sources: diminished capacity for moral judgment, educational insufficiency, paucity of moral upbringing, intellectual limitations, etc. In the secular world we live in today in this country and in Western Europe, the vast majority of people have to rely primarily on poorly formed consciences. Unfortunately, that is due to a failure of parents and the Church to develop an adequate catecheses and/or talented apologists. Those are the ones we should be praying for because they are in jeopardy. As the Gospel tells us, not all are called to be teachers; but be assured, that those who are will be held to a HIGHER STANDARD. And, those who would mislead a little one, it would be better if he had never been born.

One would indeed sound foolish to hold that every man or woman who engaged in artificial contraception or for that matter any woman, Catholic, Protestant, Jew or atheist who secured an abortion was subjectively guilty of mortal sin. They ALL committed an objectively morally wrong act but as to their subjective disposition— well, that’s where the judgment of God and the pending verdict comes in.

The above is, and has been, the teachings of my Church, the Holy Roman Catholic Church for centuries, and thank God they are because they are the only teachings that are consonant with the image of a just and merciful God.

MICHAEL:

The wages of sin is death.

Yes, God has already revealed how and when He will judge. He also gave everyone a conscience. What we do with it is on us.

This judgment does not apply to those individuals choosing to live a devout and chaste life. It can be done. God loves the sinner and hates the sin. 

This discussion will continue in another post.