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  1. Dear Father Joe, regarding the previous question I asked about the borrowed DVDs. I’m not too sure. They are produced in China, where there is no copyright law so technically, the pirated discs didn’t infringe copyright because China doesn’t acknowledge there is such a thing. But I guess, when you purchase an “official” disc, you already paid the rightful owner and therefore they have received a certain amount of money even though you borrowed your friend’s disc to watch.

    In this situation, though, I don’t know what I should do. Legally, they’re not stolen. But in a sense, you’re not paying the owner anything. What would be the better thing to do then, if there’s no “right” thing to do?

  2. I know music was meant to glorify god, but is it a sin to listen to music that doesnt, like rap?

    FATHER JOE: Music that is violent and/or filled with curses, laced with obscenities and vulgar themes is indeed problematical and a matter of sin. Secular music, otherwise, without such elements, is a worthy expression of human creativity.

  3. Hey, i was just wondering that since i was supposed to write something in french for school but wrote it in english then translated it, would that be a sin, like cheating or something of the sort?

    FATHER JOE: Why is it cheating, because you don’t think in French? If you are really worried about it, you could ask your teacher.

  4. i have many questions one of which is magic i know it exists but is it all evil if the devil can give a person power can’t God do so as well along with if magic would to be used for good then it can’t be evil because no good can come from the devil please respond and in dept to i want to know details

    FATHER JOE: Magic as slight-of-hand or trickery is an entertainment. Sorcery in certain forms was chemistry or early efforts at pharmacy. What the Scriptures and the Church forbid is diabolical sorcery or the summoning of the devil, dark spirits or so-called elementals. Much of this is superstition which is a violation of our proper posture before God and the honor due to him. No good can come of this. The devil is a liar. Unlike the Spirit of God, the devil is not creative, only corruptive. He may present “apparent” or “false” goods before us to seduce the conscience. However, he has no interest in helping us. The mystical or supernatural power that Christians should seek is called GRACE, not magic. It comes with faith and a humble obedience in love to divine providence.

  5. Now my last question is what if the person doesnt forgive you, even if you apologize?

    FATHER JOE: We cannot dictate to other human hearts. But we do know that God will always forgive repentant children. God can still forgive you even if others will not.

  6. Dear Father Joe, my relatives gave me some pirated dvds. But they are from China, where there is no copyright law. But some of the companies who own the copyright make their own “pirated” discs in China to counteract them. Though mine are of bad quality and really seems to be pirated, is it okay to watch them? Because even though they are pirated, I am not the one who stole from the owner. But is it still sinful because in normal circumstances, one pay the rightful owner before one lends it to somebody else? Thanks!

    FATHER JOE: Are you sure they are under copyright to someone else? The reception of stolen goods would normally make us accessories to their sin or crime. What complicates this issue is that you can time-shift for personal use programs on a DVR or recorder that are shown on television or heard over the radio.

  7. So if i cant apologize to the person, like at all i can still be forgiven as long as im truly sorry?

    FATHER JOE: Sometimes it is impossible to properly apologize, as when a person has died or has moved away. God can still give us forgiveness if we have genuine sorrow over our sins.

  8. I have a question, what if we have sinned aginst someone in the past and forgotten or something along those lines, or we sinned against then and cant speak with them anymore due to distance of where we live so we cant apologize, will god forgive us still?

    FATHER JOE: While a Confessor will sometimes recommend restitution, the Penitent is forgiven when the priest renders absolution. A penance is given and completed to help appease the temporal punishment due from sin. If there is a contrite heart and sorrow for sin, the person is disposed to divine mercy. As long as there is the breath of life, God can forgive anything.

  9. MELISSA:

    Dear Father Joe,

    The Holy Bible – RSV Catholic editions on Malachi 4:5-6.

    “Behold, I will send you Eli’jah the prophet before the great and terrible day of the Lord comes. And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the land with a curse.”

    Q: What does it mean, “…the great and terrible day of the Lord comes” and also “lest I come and smite the land with a curse”? These 2 verses mention that Elijah will come before the Messiah, does it mean Elijah will come in the second coming of Christ or during Jesus’ time as we can find this description of John by Jesus in Matt 11:11-15?

    Thank you Father, Melissa

    FATHER JOE: The anonymous prophet is speaking to the Jewish community after their return to Jerusalem from the long Babylonian exile. In particular he is addressing religious indifferentism and corruption, particular from the priests and leadership of the people. As Christians, we would interpret John the Baptist as the new Elijah who would make ready a straight path for the Lord. The People of God are formed and disposed for the “day of the Lord.” Christians would distinguish between the first coming and the final consummation in Christ. Many of the Jews in Christ’s time on earth expected a powerful and warrior Messiah. Jesus is, instead, the Suffering Servant. However, he shall be everything they first expected and more upon his second coming. Now is a time when we must prepare for the coming of the Lord.

  10. Sorry, but just tell me if i’m right. So there were ten commandments hiven to moses, and those were for those people but when jesus died on the cross, we didnt have to follow the ten commandments, we only had to love God with all our heart body mind and soul and love our neigbour as ourself, which will be fullfiling christ’ commandments.

    FATHER JOE: The Ten Commandments are important for all humanity. This is not the law or rather the 613 laws that are sometimes criticized in the New Testament. If you break the Ten Commandments (the Decalogue) you have broken the two commandments of Christ. Dishonoring God is not love. Lying about, stealing from or murdering people violates the love of neighbor.

  11. Oh, okay we still have to follow all the commandments, or just the two because i thought that when jesus died for our sins the ten commandments were no more and we had to only believe in him.

    FATHER JOE: The moral law of God is not capricious. Saving faith must be professed in both word and action. Obedience is still essential. You cannot simply say that you believe and then do as you please, good or bad. The Bible tells us that Christ “became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him” (Hebrews 5:9).

  12. Dear Fr Joe,

    So it seems that we have come full circle. Only Catholics can enter Heaven, and only 25% of them as by your own admission. The other 75% can’t get out of bed and out of that quarter who fulfill their Sunday Obligation, possibly some of those are not in a state of grace anyway.

    FATHER JOE: I did not say that only Catholics can go to heaven. What I said is that the Catholic Church is the great sacrament or mystery of salvation. None are saved apart from Christ and his body, the Church. As for who is or is not in a state of grace, that is God’s business.

    It just seems bizarre that God should create countless millions of souls and then, apart from just a few good Catholics, send them all to Hell. (And I know that Limbo was originally considered as a annex to that place of eternal torment, but the latest theological view is that it is a lesser part of Heaven, which to my thinking is another bizarre concept).

    FATHER JOE: Actually, as a theological construct, limbo is hardly ever mentioned at all these days. It is not considered at all in the universal catechism. Again, the Church condemns no one; however, we cannot save ourselves. We must have faith and obedience in love to Christ.

    So it seems that my original question was not only relevant but also quite significant. If “it really is that difficult to get to Heaven,” and it seems that I cannot be destined for that place as, if what you say really is true, then I could never enter in because of my attack on the Church and my heretical form of Catholicism. I have condemned myself for eternal torment through my actual attack on the Body of Christ.

    FATHER JOE: God gives you what you want. The damned have no one to blame but themselves. If you do not want to be in heaven, you can refuse God’s grace and disobey his precepts. I am amazed at the negativity of some people who still lament that God might keep them out of heaven.

    But even if I did not do that, I would still be guilty of crucifying Christ anyway just by the very fact that I was born into this Universe.

    FATHER JOE: We are born with original sin. But, in faith and baptism are washed clean. Sin by definition dishonors God and damages us. Jesus is God made man. He enters the human family and takes to himself that damage so that we might be healed. Yes, you are guilty. But I see little of thankfulness for Christ dying to save you. It is a gift for which you seem to mock him.

    So, I have to conform or be damned, and I am struggling to believe in something that seems to me to be terrible. Then you say that Faith is a gift from God, well perhaps I ain’t got that gift?

    FATHER JOE: I don’t know what you have. People struggle with weakness, sickness and sin. God knows you but do you know yourself? It is not my place to judge you. You are not a penitent in my confessional.

    So there are now 840 confirmed victims, cases of Child Abuse in Australia carried out by Catholic Priests and religious and the terrible suspicion that there may well be up to 10,000 actual victims over the last 80 years; and yet, you castigate me as persecuting the Body of Christ! Let’s just try to get things into perspective, please.

    FATHER JOE: Hell is populated by more than possibly Herod, Judas, Hitler and Stalin. Yes, there are terrible sinners and crimes crying out for divine retribution. But you do not have to be a mass murderer or child abuser to go to hell. It is enough to hate yourself, to hate others and/or to hate God. “Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.” It may be that you need to learn the importance of those words, too.

    How did Moses arrive at the Ten Commandments. Do you think that God actually gave him 2 tablets of stone, or did he find the stone and got God to carve out the letters? Or did he really and actually meet with God and transcribe into stone what God actually told him? Or was it more that he was inspired by God and carved out that inspiration? Or could he have even been a bit of shrewd politician, but nevertheless a very good man and just came up with this code of living that was very sensible and honourable and certainly not opposed to what God might expect from all of us?

    FATHER JOE: Moses did not need a movie special effects department to assemble the commandments. Such laws were not entirely unique to the Hebrews, but in this case they were the inspired terms of a covenant with a people God had rescued from bondage. The creature should always desire to walk in the ways established by his Creator. Moses was a prophet and deliverer appointed by God. He was an instrument at that stage of salvation history.

    What about his anger (Moses that is) when he saw just what his and God’s lot were up to in his absence? He destroyed the first edition of the Decalogue in a terrific fit of rage against the Chosen Race.
    Was that justifiable anger?

    FATHER JOE: Moses had to bear the punishment due his people for their faithlessness. But God did not abandon them.

    With love and exhaustion,
    Paul

  13. So those jesus’ commands are the only ones we should follow?

    FATHER JOE: I did not say that. Moses received the Decalogue from God.

  14. Dear Fr Joe,

    I would have expected nothing less from you, but sadly, and ironically, your very words prove the point I was making, and if my understanding of Catholic Doctrine is defective despite the fact that I was educated from the age of 4 till 11 by some very pedantic nuns and from 11 till 19 by some very vicious Irish Christian Brothers, then I certainly had enormous opportunity to learn the finer points but must have missed much of it.

    Also, sadly, it was the raucous cries of the priests and scribes of the time that I hear too in this letter of yours; simply: “crucify Him, crucify Him” only in this instant I am the one in the dock. Perhaps we all have planks in our eyes, but your very defense of Your Truth even smacks of the need to store up brownie points and seems to make God’s offer of salvation conditional upon us conforming to the rules of Catholicism.

    FATHER JOE: I am not privy to why you have certain misconceptions about the Catholic faith. But you do more than share ignorance, you attack the Church directly. You could not expect me to allow your comments without a clear correction and rebuttal. It is my conviction that you are very wrong on important points. My intent is neither to win an argument with you nor to hurt you. My blog is my blog and it will always reflect Church teaching in a positive and constructive light. You might disagree with the faith but it should be accurately portrayed. I believe that everything the Catholic Church teaches in faith and morals is objectively true, not just for me, but for everyone. That means for each human person on the planet and for any purple spider people living on Neptune, if they should happen to exist. Ignorance of or disagreement with the truth would not negate it. Any other attitude would smack of agnosticism or worse.

    And yet, Jesus very words to the soldiers who were the actual ones who hammered in those nails, those who never knew Him and possibly even despised Him, was simply: “father forgive them for they know not what they do.”

    FATHER JOE: Those words were not just for the soldiers who did the deed, they focused on all humanity: the Jewish leadership of the time who falsely convicted and handed him over, the Romans who sacrificed an innocent man to appease the unruly mob, and the rest of sinful humanity. The very reason why the Mass is a re-presentation of Calvary in an unbloody fashion hinges upon this truth. Jesus died for all our sins. His is a propitiatory oblation. Your view would strip this basic meaning from the Eucharist. References from John the Baptist and our Lord to himself as the LAMB OF GOD would become nonsensical. The Scriptures forcibly teach that Jesus is our sin-offering. We crucified Christ by our sins. There is a real and terrible cosmic dimension to the holocaust of our Lord.

    I have no idea if what you say is ‘the truth’ or if my ‘liberal protestant’ identity as defined by you is nearer to the truth, but you, on the other hand, are 100% convinced that yours is the only way and the only truth. It doesn’t square the circle unless you also claim that “without the Catholic Church there is no salvation”…….that smacks of another sort of fanaticism. Surely a degree of doubt is most necessary to avoid the dangers of that road?

    FATHER JOE: The teaching that there is no salvation apart from the Church is a formally proclaimed dogma of faith. It is promulgated again and again. We find it at the Fourth Lateran Council and even referenced at Vatican II. However, it is not as rigid a teaching as the Feeneyites would make it. The Catholic Church is the sacrament or great mystery of saving encounter with Christ. This is not fanaticism but Roman Catholicism 101.

    Best wishes,
    Paul

  15. I have a question, what are the latest commandments we must follow and anything else you could tell me that’d be great. Thanks!

    FATHER JOE: The latest? The Church does not make up new ones. Look to the Bible: the Old Testament has ten and Jesus summarizes them as two, the love of God and the love of neighbor.

  16. Priest, I ask you to tell me what the latest commandments we should follow to enter The Kingdom Of God, I just need to know how to get to heaven, so I know what I can do and not to do.

    FATHER JOE:

    I would recommend that you open your Bible:

    Matthew 5:19-20; 7:21; 10:22, 38; 16:24-25; 19:17; 24:13; 25:31-46
    Mark 8:34; 13:13; 16:16
    Luke 9:23; 10:25, 33; 14:27
    John 3:3-5; 6:51-58; 20:19-23
    Acts 2:46-47; 11:13-14; 15:7
    1 Corinthians 10:16-17; 11:23-30
    Philippians 1:29
    1 Timothy 2:15; 6:14
    Titus 3:5
    Hebrews 12:14
    James 5:16
    1 Peter 3:20-21
    2 Peter 1:14
    1 John 1:9; 5:16-17

  17. PAUL: Dear Father Joe, IS IT REALLY THAT DIFFICULT TO GET TO HEAVEN? The Catholic Church would have us believe that it’s nigh on impossible to get to heaven because of all the rules and laws that we fall short of keeping every single day, and it encourages us to fear God’s Judgment and hope that God might just be feeling generous when we meet Him at the point of death. We should hope that, on that one day He might be in a good mood and let us sneak in as a concession and not send us to Hell which is what He really wants to do to us. The Catholic Church tells me I am a terrible sinner and only worthy of eternal damnation. I will have to earn redemption and seek forgiveness all the time, and especially on Sundays.

    FATHER JOE: Mocking Christian soteriology is more an offense to God than an attack against the Church. There is a basic principle at stake: left to ourselves, we cannot merit salvation. As a corollary to this, there is another point, we cannot orchestrate the parameters of salvation apart from Christ and the Church. Jesus is the Savior and the Church is his mystical body. Jesus has given something of his authority to the apostles and they in turn extended it to the bishops and priests. Priests have the power to forgive sins. Laws are only important in that they reflect the truth about God’s expressed will, both in divine revelation and in the order of creation. The precepts of the Church amplify the message of the Decalogue, a law that is not abolished but fulfilled in Jesus Christ. The Catholic Church is the great mystery or sacrament of saving encounter with the Lord. You impugn the very heart of her identity and proclamation. Faithfulness to God and to his Church is not arduous, even if our conflict with modernity might bring many challenges. We are summoned to take up our crosses and to follow Jesus, a task made easy and joyful by divine grace. Catholicism preaches not presumption of justification but rather the hope of right standing with God and salvation. Our emphasis is not upon any juridical imputation but upon “metanoia” or conversion. We are made brand new and transformed into the likeness of Christ. God wants us to know salvation and union with him; but, we must be disposed to sanctifying and actual grace. A person in mortal sin lives in hatred of God and deceives himself about both divine providence and about what he or she really wants. Hatred does not have to be passionate; rather it can be cold and cynical. Love or charity makes life possible. Hatred only leads to frustration and death. We are all sinners. We have all fallen short of the glory of God. God calls us to both a personal and corporate faith in him, particularly as revealed in Jesus Christ. By attacking the corporate, you place yourself in opposition to the communion of the saints, the Church in glory. Heaven is not just union with Christ but with all those who will share paradise with you— both loved ones and those you had trouble in this world loving and forgiving. Sunday Mass and keeping holy the Lord’s Day is how we honor the dignity of God. Catholics need to understand that the Mass is always a supernatural participation in the heavenly marriage banquet. It is a spiritual taste of heaven, regardless of the quality or lack thereof of the accidentals. Those tardy to Mass might find themselves too late and locked out at the final consummation. This is fitting because, the truth be told, they did not want to be there. Those who rarely or never go, or only to the brand of ritual style that entertains them, also face the prospect of being left behind. They hate going to church and they really hate heaven. God does not so much send people to hell as he allows people the terrible freedom to opt for it over heaven. While they walk the earth, they might think they want God and heaven; but apart from grace and the guidance of the Church, it is possible that what they really want is a piece of hell they can call their own— an abode where they can be left alone. The Church would not wish such an eventuality upon anyone. She does all she can in her preaching and sacraments to steer the flock toward the truth and salvation. But the old cliché applies: “You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.”

    PAUL: It’s the Jewish New Year, the time when all practicing Jews expect God to review their past year and weigh all their good deeds and set them against all their bad deeds, their sins in other words, and if they happen to come out in credit, then they can carry on in much the same way during the coming year so that their credit will set them in God’s Favor at the point of death and they will then be well placed for whatever happens to them after that… exact definition uncertain.

    FATHER JOE: Actually, Jewish thinking about salvation is neither crass nor a mere matter of celestial banking. They would also give a heightened emphasis to the corporate element. They see themselves as the Chosen People and the People of the Covenant. It is appreciated that God took the initiative in calling them to himself. Obedience is the immediate response to their vocation as people of faith. The political overtones aside, they perceive themselves as a holy nation.

    PAUL: We, as Catholics, have inherited much of this thinking, that God is some sort of eternal tally-man and trundles out the scales of justice when we pop our clogs.

    FATHER JOE: Such is a defective appreciation of growing in grace, the role of the sacraments, and our mutual support (especially through the treasury of grace available through indulgence, penance and prayer). Catholicism does not believe in any “pelagian” report card. God cannot be bribed and there is no bargaining with heaven. A life disposed to grace shows that we have the proper orientation to Almighty God. It illustrates the fundamental option or thrust of our discipleship. Of course, like the good thief, a person might have made all the wrong choices, and yet by the Lord’s intervention, be saved at the last moments of mortal life by an act of exceptional repentance and testimony to faith.

    PAUL: All the plenary indulgences will help to balance up those scales, together with the charitable works of mercy that we have diligently performed. Set against those plus points will be all the gray and soot black sins, both mortal and venial that, even though forgiven by a priest if we are so disposed to avail ourselves of that sacrament, will never the less still require a trade off in purgatory simply to negate the remaining stain of sin that still tarnishes our immortal soul.

    FATHER JOE: Indulgences are not magic. The Sacrament of Reconciliation can bring the forgiveness of sins but penance is required in regard to the temporal punishment due for sins. Indulgences are an expression of the keys given the Church and the authority to loosen or to bind. They also signify an understanding of the communion of the saints; none of us come to God alone. Our prayers can access the meritorious fruits from the treasury of merit. Such is gathered from the “superabundant” oblation of Christ on the Cross and the holy cooperation of the saints. Indulgences apply these merits to our lives so as to mitigate the need for difficult and lengthy penances. We can know a full or partial remission of temporal punishment due for sins. Indulgences require that we be in a state of grace, having already gone to Confession and received absolution. While they can be granted for certain prayers or works, they are a gratuity from God. Unless one is disposed for the gift, then a person is only going through the motions.

    PAUL: This Catholic God, much like the Jewish one, certainly is a terrible task master and like Shylock, wants His pound of flesh.

    FATHER JOE: Such a comparison is both anti-Semitism and anti-Catholicism at its worse. Any personal demons or illness from which you suffer would not justify such slander. The Church is no evil money-lender. Indeed, simony in all forms is a grievous sin. What Christ has given freely, the Church in turn offers freely. The Church is the expression of God’s love in the world.

    PAUL: Jesus, on the other hand, seemed to tell a different story. As far as the Commandments went, His was a more sort of Humanistic take. I’m not talking about murder here, even though King David seemed to have gotten away with that one, I’m looking at the others and certainly the ones that the Catholic Church bangs on about, say the third (or the forth if you’re Protestant), which is exactly why Jesus came onto the radar. It was the Sabbath and the leaders saw a fellow Jew carrying his bedding… a serious offence much like us missing Mass, and worthy of being stoned to death. But this bed carrier told them that Jesus, the man who had cured him, that too on the Sabbath, told him to carry it. That really put the cat amongst the pigeons. Not only was this man going about curing people on the Sabbath and breaking the Mosaic Law, he was telling others to commit terrible sins… that’s when they set out to get him.

    FATHER JOE: Please, let us not be so hypocritical and deceptive. The Church makes allowances regarding the Lord’s Day for policemen, firemen, medical personnel, the sick, and even for people forced by finances and family needs. What we are talking about here are people too lazy to take themselves out of bed on Sundays. They would prefer to watch a football game or attend a party or go to the movies than to worship God at Mass. 75% of our people do not go to Mass on Sunday because they do not care enough to go. Their faith is weak or dead. Such in itself is why violation of this precept is a serious sin.

    PAUL: And so it was when Jesus was hanging on the cross with nails driven into His hands and a crown of thorns roughly hammered onto His head, that He turned to the man we call “The Good Thief”. And said something quite wonderful.

    FATHER JOE: Don’t forget that there was another thief who has his eyes plucked out for his blasphemy.

    PAUL: Now the nuns, backed up by your very own confirmation, would have me believe that it was I who hammered in those nails, placed that crown of thorns on His sacred head, and it was I who plunged the lance into His side… that’s poppycock.

    FATHER JOE: The sisters were right and you are wrong. The cumulative sins of all mankind in every place throughout all human history from Adam to the consummation of the world are what crucified Christ. We are guilty— all of us— me and you and everyone else. Only Mary is gifted with prevenient grace, literally saved in the womb. Are you even Catholic? This teaching was spelled out at the Council of Trent against the Protestant reformers. Jesus is the great sin offering who makes atonement for sin. He bears the punishment which was our due. He suffers and dies so that the breech with God might be healed and bridged. He does not die for generic sins and sinners. He dies for each of us personally. He dies for you. This teaching is given a dramatic moment in the Church during the reading of the Passion. The congregation dialogues as the crowd and shouts “Crucify him, crucify him!” The Way of the Cross only has meaning during Lent if we appreciate that the nails of Christ have our names upon them. Without this understanding, it is dubious that perfect contrition can be made for absolution in the Sacrament of Penance. Repentant and loving the Lord, we are sorrowful because we know what our sins have done. Nevertheless, Christ forgives us, his murderers.

    PAUL: The Passionists would also have us believe that – but all seem to have missed the point. God created me in a state of “original sin” as the Church defines it and unless I am Baptised then I will never enjoy the full Beautific Vision even if I were to die ‘post partum’. There is still a place called ‘Limbo’ possibly now a lower level of Heaven, but all babies who die shortly after birth, but without being Baptised, will only ever achieve a second class Heaven at best, or at least that’s what the Law givers still maintain. I see that as utter bunkum.

    FATHER JOE: Unlike the Feeneyites, the true Church also teaches about invincible ignorance, baptism by blood, and baptism by desire. If you deny the teaching of original sin then you remove the need for a Savior altogether. Maybe you are more a humanist than a Christian? The theory of limbo may be true although there is nothing about it in the new catechism. The early Church fathers like St. Augustine thought that unbaptized children went to hell. The scholastics theorized limbo where there might be a natural happiness but ignorance of God. However, the separation from God would still seem to make limbo more like hell than heaven. We were made for God. While insisting upon baptism, the Church prays in hope for those children lost before receiving the sacrament. We leave the matter to God. While not knowing what the Church actually teaches today, it seems that you even misunderstood the older ideas. You resentment against the Church has poisoned your faith. There is nothing good I can say about it.

    PAUL: When Jesus was at the point of His death on the cross, the “Good thief”, (who had obviously lived such a sinful life that he was sentenced to crucifixion, so he wasn’t really good at all,) this ‘Good Thief’ witnessed that Jesus was innocent and someone special and asked to be remembered when The King came to His Kingdom, Now this man, probably a terrible sinner certainly had never been Baptised, nor was there any desire to be baptised, but the Catholic Theology sort of gets round that one by introducing a rather tenuous “Baptism by Blood” just to weigh the scales in favour of a good home run. Jesus simply said to him “Today you will be with me in Paradise”.

    FATHER JOE: The baptism by blood is no little matter, especially for the many catechumens who witnessed to Christ by being crucified, mauled by beasts, burned and beheaded. However, when it comes to the good thief there is another wrinkle. This scene comes prior to Christ’s death, descent to the dead, resurrection and ascension. Our Lord could well forgive this man’s sins and then take him along with all the righteous dead in the limbo of the fathers (translated as hell in the creed) to paradise. I should also add that every priest can steal souls from the devil and hell just by saying in Confession, “I absolve you from your sins….”

    PAUL: And so it is with the parable of the ‘prodigal son’, the ‘workers in the vineyard’ and say, the ‘good Samaritan’, Jesus was sort of pointing out that it’s not a case of saving up brownie points throughout a lifetime of compliance with the law, it’s more to do with what’s in the heart, and a personal relationship with Jesus.

    FATHER JOE: The prodigal son hopefully changed his life. Had he not changed his life he would have starved. In other words, a failure to repent and change one’s life can bring eternal death. As for the Good Samaritan, charity covers a multitude of sins. While it is only a parable, we might presume that he was consistently a good man. There is nothing about him being disreputable or without some degree of faith. Indeed, Samaritans were very similar to the ancient Hebrews. They also saw themselves as sons and daughters of Abraham. Catholics do not teach that Jews and others are damned. What we do say is that Jesus is the Christ and Messiah. He is God come to save his people as a member of the human family.

    PAUL: This might sound very anti-Catholic and I guess it is, but I see so many so called ‘good catholics’ turning up for Mass every Sunday and just a few will go back to work the next day doing a job that really counts, a service to their fellows, most will simply earn money by ripping off someone somewhere and spending that on their new cars and plastic frippery. Most seem to be engaged in usury somewhere or other. Most would pass by on the other side of the street. Most ask me how I am and disappear before I can actually tell them.

    FATHER JOE: It is very anti-Catholic and I am surprised by the venom and ignorance that pervades such words. I feel I have been duped by a man who purported to be Catholic, albeit with serious personal problems. You seem overly worried about the splinter in your brothers’ eyes while the plank in your own blinds you to the truth. You cannot castigate people and expect them to want to stay around you. Friendship breeds friendship. Hatred always leaves us solitary or surrounded by people grown tired of caring.

    PAUL: We can’t earn our salvation, Jesus already paid that price. I do not have a debt to pay, I am not having to save up credits to balance the weighing machine; there is no weighing machine at all. Jesus fulfilled the law and with His dispensation entered in a new way and the way was “LOVE”. There is no debt nor indebtedness even though I need to live by His Way, but it is His Way and not His Rules or His Laws that I have to follow. The Good Old Catholic Church seems to have missed that point somewhere along the way and is trapped, still, in the Jewish heritage of an “eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth” and I for one am sick of it. So there, with love as always, Paul

    FATHER JOE: This has been a difficult post to which to respond. I do not get a sense of love, but rather anger and hatred— toward the Church, toward her ministers, and toward her membership. Basic doctrines are falsely caricatured and ridiculed. Your theology is liberal Protestantism. They also reject the debt of sinners. They would also insist that nothing has changed, arguing that Christ has done all the work. Thus there is no need for sacraments like the Mass and Penance. Indulgences are brushed aside and, as you seem to do, they would embrace blessed assurance— once saved, always saved. Your ideas are opposed to the essentials of Catholicism, old and new. Indeed, even the abrogation of traditional morals based upon the commandments is in line with progressive Protestantism where the only sin is intolerance and/or a lack of hospitality. So you and your pals can pass the punch and cookies; I prefer the sacrificial chalice of salvation and the bread of life. When you deny spiritual debt, you reject the Mass as a sacrifice of propitiation. Sorry to hit you so hard, but this is the objective truth as I see it. You might like Latin, but scratch the surface and you are a Protestant. Speaking the truth in a love that is not silent for the sake of human affection, Father Joe

  18. Dear Father Joe

    The Holy Bible – RSV Catholic editions on Malachi 4:5-6,

    “Behold, I will send you Eli’jah the prophet before the great and terrible day of the Lord comes. And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the land with a curse.”

    Q: What does it means the great and terrible day of the Lord comes? and also lest I come and smite the land with a curse? This 2 verses mentioned that Elijah will come before the Messiah, does it meant Elijah will come in the second coming of Christ or during Jesus’ time as we can find this description of John by Jesus in Matt 11:11-15.

    Thank you Father.

    Melissa

    FATHER JOE: John the Baptist plays the role of Elijah who makes ready the way of the Lord, Jesus Christ. Many of the Jews expected a powerful military Messiah who would vanquish their enemies and make them a great nation again. Instead, our Lord came as the suffering servant who would overcome sin and death by his Cross. Nothing would ever be the same again. God has intervened definitively in human history. Of course, the second coming and the final consummation may be closer to the spectacle that the waiting Jews first expected.

  19. Dear Father Joe,

    Will I be “demanding unnecessary work from others” as stated in the code of canon law under Sunday obligation if I am planning to study with my friends, but they are only free on Sunday? Since it would require, for me, public transportation and going to restaurants (because they might want to have meal together after studying). Maybe we’ll sit in Starbucks and buy some drinks. Is it okay if they are only free on that day? If it’s not, how can I tell them what my faith doesn’t allow me to do without giving them a bad impression?

    FATHER JOE: Sometimes study on Sunday is necessary work. As long as you worship God at Mass, most priests would not regard this issue as significant. Study is an element of your calling as a student. God understands these matters. Catholics are not rigorists about such things. However, it is good that you are concerned about how your choices might affect others and their employment. Churches often recommend public transportation on Sundays so that churchgoers might make it to services. It would be rather difficult or even hypocritical to attack such employment for other purposes. You ask complex questions. The Church hopes that all have an opportunity for worship, rest and time with family.

  20. I must ask, when i lied must i come clean about the lie and tell the truth for god to forgive me?

    FATHER JOE: You are not always obliged to “come clean” about lies or sins to others. Of course, if they were mortal sins then they should be confessed to a priest for absolution. Not all lies are the same. Some may only be venial sins, if that, as when your wife asks, “Does this dress make me look fat?” Lies that cost people their reputations, jobs or lives are more egregious. Such cases may require coming forward with the truth as an element of restitution.

  21. When the church preaches about Jesus emptying himself what exactly is meant by that and where is the documents to back it up? Thank you.

    FATHER JOE:

    The source is the Bible, more exactly Philippians 2:5-11.

    “Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus, Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped. Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross. Because of this, God greatly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bend, of those in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”

    God becomes a man to save us.

  22. Dear Father Joe, how can one distinguish what is and what isn’t cooperation with evil or sin of omission? For cooperation with evil, what if a person may be eating an ice-cream out of gluttony (though I’m not sure) and they ask me to pass the ice-cream they want to buy? As for sin of omission, if my classmates are cheating but the teacher didn’t notice it or maybe she doesn’t care about it, will I be guilty of omission if I don’t report it? Thanks!

    FATHER JOE: Each of us has to decide the limits of our toleration with evil and our complicity. We are all sinners. Cooperation with evil might be immediate or quite remote; the more remote, the better. It is hard or impossible not to be tainted. Such is behind the controversy of buying goods and bibles from China. Oppressive work conditions and attacks against the Church come hand-in-hand with an economic engine that produces much for the rest of the world that is denied their own. Do we save money or make a stand? I would suggest that even if your classmates and teachers should be cheaters, you can remain honest. God bless!

  23. Dear Father Joe,

    Sorry if I appear too annoying, but I’m really want to know what should I avoid in regards to my previous comment under the same name. Tutorial schools are a organizations who hire people to teach some subjects. They cannot replace the normal schools, the school that you and I are familiar with. How it works is that you apply for a course, say on Saturday. Then the people enrolled go there for an hour and more to listen to the teacher and do exercises. It’s basically an organization with academic courses. But no school rules as far as I’m aware of. Usually students apply in the hope that they can improve their results, especially for the public exam (same as SAT in the US)

    What I’m thinking of doing is just to stay there for the lesson and even if i hear the contents of next year’s public exam paper, I’m not going to mark it down or remember it. If the teacher gave me some exercises from that library book and wants us to do it during the lesson, then I won’t do it. Is this the best alternative? Thanks! =]

    FATHER JOE: SAT Prep books are also sold with questions from previous tests. That is no guarantee that such questions will appear again. I doubt that the teacher actually knows what the questions will be… whatever kind of testing you are talking about. As I said, I know nothing about such schools, but if you think they are helpful then make the most of it.

  24. Dear Father Joe, I am wondering whether I should quit a tutorial school. The reason is that the teacher seems to be giving Some insider’s information about next year’s exam in terms of essay types. He has a post in the department and he did say “I can’t say too much to you” makin me think perhaps he has a better judgement than I do. However, then he mentions that after the questions are set, he’ll narrow down what we’ll be practicing.

    Another thing is, he said he deliberately kept books from the library and pretends to have lost them and gave he fine because those articles in the books are needed to give to us as practice papers. Is this stolen material? Furthermore, I don’t know if it infringes copyright for sure but it seems to. I don’t live in US so there is no fair use.

    Should I continue my lessons? Is it acceptable if I practice the essay types the teacher suggested us to as he says these are the ones that is most likely to be tested/ will be tested on?

    FATHER JOE: Sorry, you are on your own about this one. I am not even sure what tutorial school is.

  25. I have a question. The question is, can God forgive deliberate sin? Please tell me, so that I will know if I can be forgiven if I have deliberately sinned.

    FATHER JOE: All sin is deliberate. One cannot accidentally sin. God forgives sin but we need to exhibit contrition or sorrow for sin.

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