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Women Priests: Destruction of the Church

OBJECTION

Anglican women now serve as both priests and bishops.  They preach well from pulpits and administer the Eucharist and other sacraments.  It is evident that the Holy Spirit enables and empowers their efforts.  Their church has been enriched, not impoverished, by their contribution.  We as Catholics should be ashamed of ourselves for dismissing the calling to ministry that women have received.

RESPONSE

How can you suggest that the experience of the Anglican “communion” has made this concern mute? Their church is dying, the priesthood and Mass are dubious, and heresy is rampant. The Episcopalian Australians have even pushed for an eradication of the priesthood altogether in allowing laity to preside at the Eucharist. The matter of women priests is tearing what ecclesial reality they possess to pieces. Their dire situation provides further evidence that the Catholic view is true. Their orders are null-and-void. Now many of their most devout and intelligent thinkers are agreeing with us. Indeed, their inrush into the Catholic Church raises fears about the possible restoration of the old anti-Catholic laws in England.

You wrongly claim that the heretics did the right thing in ordaining women. But their reasoning was false. Their appeal was more to a contemporary assessment of social justice than to revelation. Many of those seeking to justify the change in discipline appealed to Gnostic writings and a heretical interpretation of Galatians. They negated the value of the incarnation of Christ and disavowed his masculinity as having any role in his saving actions. They would also make unsubstantiated jumps in reasoning based upon frivolous arguments and suspect data, i.e. assuming that women referenced in apostolic communities were themselves apostles. 

The Anglicans reduce the faith to well-performed ritual and the recitation of the creed.  But when it comes to women priests, they reject the long-standing tradition and the wisdom of such saints as Augustine, John Damascene, and John Chrysostom against women priests. The legacy of the saints is given voice in the new catechism. Once you reject one tenant, the foundation for holding the rest is shattered. Such a faith becomes arbitrary and open to whim. Where is your burden of proof? Many of the Anglicans admitted that they did not have any. They were pressured and they gave in.

Galatians 3:28 is the verse that the Anglican Communion cites for the ordination of women. But the heretical Montanists did the same to rationalize their inclusion of women as priests and bishops. The truly catholic and orthodox churches saw through this deception. What applied to the baptismal priesthood of all believers could not be sustained for the ordained priesthood given the witness of Christ and that of the apostles, including St. Paul. 

My doubts made the priestly ministry increasingly burdensome and problematic. As a heterosexual, Bible-believing, Anglican Traditionalist, I found no affirmation in the Episcopal Church as it moved toward a radical revision of the Gospel, setting aside the Apostolic Tradition for its social justice agenda. Evidence of Anglican departure from the tradition is self-evident. Until 1976, even though a negative verdict had been rendered about the overall status of apostolic succession in Anglican orders due to Cranmer’s defective ordination rite in the Ordinal of 1550, only men were ordained to holy orders. The negative verdict of Apostolicae Curae (1896) had been mitigated or put into question because of the later participation of orthodox and Old Catholic bishops at certain Anglican ordinations. The Ordinal had also been corrected. Nevertheless, a second break arguably occurs in the modern era at the General Convention of the Episcopal Church when a vote is made to ordain women against the constant teaching of the Fathers and the Bible. Despite Ecumenical gestures by Roman Catholicism, everything was spurned so that women might be made clergy. Forcing this question upon the Catholic Church, Pope St. John Paul II closed the door to women priests with Ordinatio Sacerdotalis (1994). The Church does not have the authority to change the tradition handed down from Christ.

Error builds upon error and the first woman ordained to the Anglican priesthood in the U.S. was a professed lesbian.  Later the floodgates would open the priesthood to active homosexuals. Indeed, the chief bishop for the U.S. was at one point a man who left his wife for his homosexual lover.  Anglicans had reduced what was a gift of God to one of many supposed rights in a social justice agenda.

Turning to Catholicism, we see something of this association between women’s ordination and lesbianism with the likes of the ex-nun and pseudo Catholic priestess Victoria Rue who tags herself as a “lesbian-feminist.” While she regards herself as Catholic, she is only invited to celebrate liturgies in Episcopal churches. All these so-called “Catholic” women-priests are in truth now Protestants. It is also my understanding that they are excommunicated, as is any legitimate Roman Catholic priest (male) that is involved with their fictional ordinations or consecrations as clergy. The ordination was attempted by former nun Christine Mayr–Lumetsberger, former nun Patricia Fresen, and Gisela Forster (a matronly wife and mother). They themselves claimed their spurious orders from the renegade Catholic Argentine Bishop Rómulo Antonio Braschi who joined a made-up church called the Catholic Apostolic Charismatic Church of Jesus the King.

Renewed demands for the ordination of women as priests in Catholicism echoes the developments in the Episcopalian churches.  Indeed, I am particularly worried that the new rallying cry for a synodal Church might hijack Pope Francis’ overture so as to transform a hierarchical body and make it democratic. However, such runs against the grain of the Church’s institution by our Lord. The truths of God are passed down from God and do not emerge from a consensus of people (weighted toward dissenters) who desire to vote their whims.   

The values of a secular humanist society are increasing asserting themselves against the Judeo-Christian teachings of the Church.  All this plays into the movement for women priests.  It is demanded by radical Marxist feminists who find themselves problematic bedfellows with the current gender dysphoria that is being forced upon us as normative and elective. While there is a pick-and choose style when it comes to the sources of revelation, there is an irony that St. Paul’s writings are used to promote women priests while they absolutely despise his moral exhortations and his demand for women to be silent in the churches. Scripture and Tradition are distorted and even rejected by the supporters of women’s ordination. They stamp as patriarchal and sinful the teachings of living popes and dead saints (including the Church fathers) that condemn women’s ordination as impossible. They argue that the priest shortage demands the ordination of women even though women’s vocations have been even more severely retarded and many ancient orders are disappearing. As a symptom of their clericalization of the Church, they also tend to dismiss the good and vital work that many lay women do for the faith, especially in parishes and schools. If there is not an outright hatred and distrust of men, there is nevertheless a tendency to gather like-minded women and to alienate men as co-workers in ministry or even in the pews. The Anglicans have seen vocations for men wither in the wake of women entering their priesthood. Men are forced out. This is deliberate as an effort, they claim, to make up for past imbalance and injustice.  The intrusion of a woman as a feigned priest distorts the meaning of the liturgy and invalidates both the Mass as a sacrifice and the Eucharist as the real presence of Jesus Christ.  

4 Responses

  1. Wonderful, thank you. As an Anglican I am dismayed by the direction of the CofE and (as a woman) I know I will be vilified for saying this decline seems to have been exacerbated by the ordination of women. We are equal, we are gifted and we can serve with real value. Why do we always have to be exactly the same as a man to feel valued. That is not equality and negates our unique and exceptional value as women.

  2. The fact that the earth is flat is an authentic Church teaching. The fact that the moon, planets, and galaxies revolve around the earth is an authentic Church teaching.

    FATHER JOE: No, such are not Church teachings, just the ignorant presumptions of men. The Bible teaches us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go.

    The fact that for several centuries we dug up our ancestors to baptize them . . .

    FATHER JOE: No, the Church has never baptized the dead.

    The Church had to create limbo because of the authentic teaching that unbaptized babies could not go to heaven, which caused mothers to commit suicide to join them.


    FATHER JOE:
    No, the theoretical construct of limbo had to do with the necessity of baptism The Church teaches that none are saved apart from Christ. While hell is real, we leave the disposition of unbaptized infants to God and in hope affirm divine mercy.

    Just because a teaching is authentic or even biblical does not make it correct.

    FATHER JOE: No, this is nonsensical and if insisted upon, heretical.

    Quoted from Albino Luciani Pope John Paul I . . .

    FATHER JOE: What is quoted? I think you are making this stuff up.

    Note all things evolve and so must the church or it will stagnate and die.

    FATHER JOE: No, there is life, growth, and death. While we develop in understanding and holiness, Christ is forever the same. The deposit of faith may develop (in our understanding) but the truths are set.

    When it comes to evolution, all in the Church must be dragged kicking and screaming, if necessary, into the modern world. The great enemy of modernism has won as it was always destined to do. Sticking your fingers in your ears, stamping the crown, and wishing for a return to the 19th century will not work. It’s time to follow the right JC Jesus Christ and not John Calvin as the conservative aspects of all churches currently embrace. RG

    FATHER JOE: The Church dialogues and challenges the world but she must not surrender the Gospel.

  3. One huge problem is that very old traditional roles for women have been discontinued. In the Byzantine rite there used to be “Myrrh bearing women” who had a beautiful and significant role taking care of the tabernacle (and the body of Jesus). This is my understanding. Now I don’t think that role exists anywhere except for in plays and skits out on by children.
    In Roman Catholic Churches priests are like dictators, as if being a priest gives them the right to control everything going on in a parish. Women who want to do out reach, ministry, start homeschool groups, start toddler groups are constantly told “no”. Constantly.
    This is overstepping in power. Practically speaking, maybe this is why women want to be deacons and priests? I’m not saying it’s right. However what we have now-the way church looks now-is not “traditional”. As a 42 year old woman who’s been Catholic my entire life, I’ve known quite a few priests. Many seem afraid of women. Many don’t know how to deal with women. So I think they shy away from allowing women any kind of leadership role even on a parish level.
    Harsh. But true.

    FATHER JOE:

    I cannot speak to the experiences you had in particular parishes, but over the last forty years I have been in churches that empower and recognize the gifts of women. Many of our readers, extraordinary ministers, catechists, musicians, office staff, altar guild support, community outreach, etc. are led by women of faith. My parish established an auxiliary to the Knights of Columbus, a Sodality and a Legion of Mary. Most of the membership is made up of women. I support our regional Catholic school and as pastor have always supported our few homeschooling families. Unless it is a matter of logistics or child protection policies, I almost say yes to volunteerism and any enthusiasm to live out our faith.

    You are very critical but have you ever sat down with your pastor and expressed your feelings about how the discipleship of women might be expanded in the life of the local faith community? Have you brought your points to the Parish Council that likely is composed of women and men? While I have heard a few angry voices from women who want to be ordained or who are pro-abortion, most women I know seem appreciative of the growing roles, behind the scenes or visible, that they play in parishes. Indeed, I hear an opposite criticism from yours, that the Church overall is being feminized to the point that men are disappearing from the pews and from parish outreach. In any case, my intention is not to argue with you but merely to suggest that all may not be as it seems. We should also be careful lest we commit calumny against good men who have surrendered everything for the Gospel and are literally working themselves into the grave. Peace!

  4. Everyone should have their own beliefs

    FATHER JOE: Everyone does but many of those beliefs will not save them. Indeed, radical or militant Islamists would also affirm a right to their beliefs although they would enslave or execute you for yours.

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