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An Exorcism Story

A few recent articles have gone too far and have revealed the identity of the possessed boy. There will be nothing of that here. Indeed, I wrote one so-called investigative journalist and pleaded with him to remove the name from his article reprinted to the World Wide Web. If this man wanted to be known, he himself would have told his story. Past journalists and authors had the information at hand, but they were true gentlemen and respected the rights of personal privacy. The Church has also kept the record secret. The Jesuits spoke and the journal kept has come to light. This rendition is based upon that journal and the recollections of the server involved with the Washington exorcism effort.

The News Breaks

The Washington Post article in 1949 proclaims, “Priest Frees 14-Year-Old Boy Reported Held in Devil’s Grip.” Almost immediately the story was picked up by the other news services and magazines. Who would think that such a thing could still happen, and in all places, modern-day America? The story has been told and retold.

Unable to get access to archdiocesan records, William Peter Blatty produced his fictionalized account that resulted in a blockbuster movie of 1974. One priest lamented at the time, “It is tragic that the devil should prove so popular with people when they seem so disinterested in God.” The conclusion of the film was most lamentable in that the young priest exchanges his body for that of the child as a host to the demon and then throws himself from the window. If the story had been true, one could logically contend that the devil was really after the priest the entire time. In other words, the devil actually won and the rituals and intercession of the Catholic Church were proven impotent. Fortunately, such portrayals are restricted to the movies and the real story shows that the power of Christ and of his Church can still vanquish the demonic.

How It Really Started

Unlike the movie, the story surrounded a young boy who was born June 1, 1935. He and his parents lived just outside Washington, D.C. in Cottage City, not far from Mount Rainier, Maryland. (Some sources claim a popular Mount Ranier location as the site of the boy’s home. The house at this location has been torn down and a dance studio is now on the site. The diary gives the Cottage City location, instead. I do not feel it appropriate to give the full address. However, since Catholics in the past identified themselves by their parishes, we might still regard this as the Mount Ranier Case. The boy converted to the Catholic faith and claimed St. James Parish as his own in Mount Ranier.) The first signs of trouble started on January 15, 1949. He was thirteen years old. While his parents were out that evening, he and his grandmother heard a dripping sound in the house. It only lasted for a brief period and then a picture of Jesus on the wall began to shake as if something had bumped into it. When his parents had returned home, a definite scratching noise could be heard under the floorboards next to his grandmother’s bed. This sound of scratching was repeated each night from about 7:00 PM until midnight. Logically, the family figured that there must be a rodent problem. An exterminator was called. However, despite taking up the floorboards and wall panels to spread poison, the sound did not cease. Indeed, the disturbing noises became worse.

Some ten days afterwards the noises ceased and all believed the rodent to be dead. Nevertheless, the boy was under the impression that he could still hear the scratching noises. Three days later the sound became audible to the rest of the family again.

The exorcist writes:

“When the sound became audible again, it was no longer in the upstairs bedroom but had moved downstairs to the boy’s bedroom. It was heard as the sound of squeaking shoes along the bed and was heard only at night when the boy went to bed. The squeaking sound continued for six nights, on the sixth night scratching again was audible.”

It appears that the invitation for this spiritual invasion was inadvertently initiated through a favorite aunt of the boy. She had died in St. Louis two weeks prior to the first registered phenomena.

“It developed that the aunt of the boy and his parents had used a Ouija board, and this probably gave the devil his first entrance.”

Many religious authorities are convinced that such a so-called toy actually offers an invitation to evil spirits. Aunt Tillie had been an enthusiast of spiritualism. Suspecting something supernatural in the sound of marching feet, the boy’s mother asked (according to the exorcist’s journal):

“‘Is that you Aunt Tillie?’ She obtained no verbal reply and continued: (evidently aware of the methods employed by spiritualists) ‘If this is you, knock three times.’ There were waves of air striking the grandmother, mother and boy, and three distinct knocks were heard on the floor. The mother asked again: ‘If you are Tillie, tell me positively by knocking four times.’ Four distinct knocks were heard.”

As time went by, it became evident that strange occurrences and sounds seemed to follow the boy.

“An orange and a pear flew across the entire room where he was standing.”

“The kitchen table was upset without any movement on the boy’s part.”

“Milk and food were thrown off the table and stove.”

“The breadboard was thrown onto the floor.”

“Outside the kitchen a coat on its hanger flew across the room.”

“A Bible was thrown directly at the foot of the boy but did not injure him in any way.”

“His desk at school moved about on the floor similar to the planchette on an Ouija board.” (This latter evidence of telekinesis forced the boy to quit school because of embarrassment.)

Things became increasingly worse at home.

“On one occasion the coverlet of the bed was pulled out from under the mattress and the edges stood up above the surface of the bed in a curled form as though held up with starch. When the bystanders touched the bedspread, the sides fell back to normal position.”

It was also stated that “At first everybody, including the boy, took it as a kind of joke, but it became more than a joke.” Soon thereafter, “the word LOUIS was written in deep red on the boy’s ribs,” seeming to indicate that some invisible force desired that the boy travel to St. Louis where his favorite aunt lived.

The Lutheran Minister

His mother called a minister of her faith, a local Lutheran pastor. He was dubious about the whole matter. Although suspicious of the chest message, written upside down as if self-inflicted, he requested that the family come to his home. What happened next struck him as defying any natural explanation. His offer to keep the boy over at his home was accepted. It was the 17th of February in 1949. At about 10:00 PM, they decided to go to bed. The room contained twin beds. After about ten minutes, the boy’s bed began to vibrate. The headboard was banging against the frame.

The minister reported:

“It made a lot of racket. I thought he was shaking it but he was making no visible movement.”

Seeking a practical remedy to the situation, he placed the boy in a large overstuffed chair and sat beside him. Slowly the chair began to tilt upon its side and the minister had to grab it before it fell over. The good pastor insisted that there was no way the boy could be pushing the chair over since his legs were thoroughly tucked beneath him. He then placed the boy on a scatter rug upon the floor. Certainly, this would resolve the matter for the night. But no, the rug “moved slowly until it got to the wall and then it stopped.” The poor clergyman was utterly befuddled.

“I remember thinking he must be doing it himself but I realized later that would have been impossible. There was no movement of his body.”

The boy was delivered home the next day. Because of his Protestant theology, the minister sought a natural explanation. Unable to come up with one, he categorized the whole incident under unknown forces.

From Shrink to Witchdoctor to Priest

A psychiatrist from Georgetown University was called in but refusing to believe in the phenomena he simply reported that the boy was normal but “somewhat high-strung.” The family complicated matters further by calling a spiritualist. However, his incantations for dispelling spirits failed. Indeed, the situation became graver.

Having a relative married to a Catholic, the boy’s mother described the situation to him. His response was “If what you say is true, then you should consult a priest.” The family called the nearby parish, St. James Catholic Church. The boy’s father made an appointment to talk to one of the priests. The clergyman gave him various sacramentals: holy water, blessed candles, and some recommended prayers.

“Once when the mother had sprinkled the holy water around the room, she placed the bottle on a dresser and it was picked up by the spirit and smashed. When one of the candles was lighted, the flame shot up to the ceiling, and the candle was extinguished for fear that the house might be set on fire.”

The suggested prayers seemed to make the phenomena worse. Deciding to call back the priest, the clergyman heard a great crashing sound. The mother of the boy told him that the telephone table she was using had broken into a hundred pieces.

This anxious situation refused to end and matters grew tenser. The priest, Fr. E. Albert Hughes, went to the chancellor of the archdiocese. He was warned to move slowly and not to leap to rash judgments. The young priest explained that he had done as much. After a meeting with the archbishop, Most Reverend Patrick A. O’Boyle, he was authorized to initiate the exorcisms. Fr. Hughes resisted, hoping that an older and more experienced man might be chosen instead.

He “understood that this should be done by a very holy man because the devil is wont to expose the sins of the priest; so the Father went to Baltimore and made a general confession. But the devil is the father of lies, and there is a theological opinion that he is unable to reveal sins that have been forgiven.”

The archbishop insisted, the young priest had to offer the ritual. It would prove a terrible miscalculation. Between February 27 and March 4, the boy was moved to Georgetown University Hospital. A young man and altar server (George Chapman) who was known for his abilities in high school football was drafted by the priest to assist him. This young man grew up and became a leader in the local Knights of Columbus. A good friend, he passed away on January 9, 2009. He told me that he had a terrible struggle to hold the possessed boy down. The boy could spit across the room with deadly accuracy. George said the saliva was like acid and he saw it literally dissolve the priest’s book. At one point George lost his patience and even lightly slugged the other boy to keep him under control. He saw himself as the popular priest’s body guard. The priest made him go to confession and pledged him not to tell his mother and friends the details of the encounters. They tied the hands and feet of the boy to the bedposts. He reacted violently to the ritual. Loose items in the room crashed to the floor. The bed shook uncontrollably. Strenuously the large server sought to hold the bed down. The victim was a small boy and yet he possessed incredible strength. The priest warned his young assistant not to enter into dialogue with the boy, only to give the required responses to the ritual words of the priest. Strange words came forth from the restrained boy, supposedly Aramaic, a form of ancient Hebrew. Previously the boy had taunted the priest in Latin. Objects were thrown around the room. The boy growled like an inhuman animal. Then it happened. Somehow the boy had gotten a hand free of the restraints. He secretly tore through the heavy mattress and ripped out a metal spring. The server responded to the words uttered by Fr. Hughes in the ritual. At the conclusion of the Lord’s Prayer, the boy attacked the priest and tore a gash into the cleric’s arm from his shoulder to his wrist. Blood exploded over everything! The ritual prayer book was caked in the priest’s blood! He screamed out! The exorcism had ended in failure. The priest’s life was saved by the doctors and his arm had a long track of a hundred plus stitches. He would have lingering problems with the arm and it would visibly drag at the consecration during Masses.

As an interesting aside, the young server in this episode was struck in the eye by the afflicted boy. He would develop a black eye and it was joked that maybe the priest had socked him. When the priest mysteriously left the parish, only he knew the true reason. The good priest would need to recuperate from his terrible encounter and injury. After this event, colleagues of the priest say that Fr. Hughes was never quite the same. He became quieter. He was intensely reserved about what had happened. One remarked that it was as if he was a haunted man. He died in 1980.

The sources are clear about this next point.

“Up to this time everything had been obsession, that is, exterior to the boy, but as soon as the exorcisms began, real possession began.”

They Go to Saint Louis

The boy expressed a desire to go to St. Louis, and since they had relatives they could visit there, the family left with the hope of leaving their troubles behind them. Unfortunately, the problem with the boy did not improve.

“Different displays were witnessed by two aunts of the boy, four uncles and four cousins. The printing ‘No School’ was seen by four people. The swaying of the mattress, the upsetting of bedroom furniture and the scratching on the mattress were observed by the entire group . . . Phenomena indicated that the spirit was not the devil but the soul of deceased Tillie. The spirit confirmed again to all present that she was Tillie by moving a heavy bed two or three feet with not one of the bystanders near the bed.”

Again a priest was consulted from the closest Catholic parish. Fr. Raymond J. Bishop, S.J., a teacher at the university came to the house on March 9.

He “blessed the entire house, and used a special blessing in the boy’s room and on his bed. A second-class relic of St. Margaret Mary was safety-pinned to the extreme border of the pillow. Shortly after the boy retired, the mattress on his bed began to move back and forth in the direction of the bed uprights. The boy lay perfectly still, and did not exert any physical effort. The movement in one direction did not exceed more than three inches; the action was intermittent and completely subsided after a period of approximately fifteen minutes.”

The next day, similar things happened. The relic was thrown to the floor.

“The safety pin was open but no human hand had touched the relic. The boy started up in fright when the relic was thrown down.”

Exorcism & Baptism

The next day, Friday, March 11, the priest who would perform the exorcisms visited the family. Fr. Bishop had in turn contacted Fr. William S. Bowdern, S.J. from St. Francis Xavier Church. He was shaken by what he observed. He brought additional relics and a crucifix.

“Shortly after the boy had retired at 11:00 PM, he called downstairs that he had been frightened by a strong force that had thrown some object against the mirror in his bedroom. With safety pin opened, the relic of St. Margaret Mary had been thrown against the mirror and the sound was like a pellet striking the glass. Another occurrence was a cross mark scratched on the boy’s left, outer forearm. The pain was similar to that produced by a scratch of a thorn. The cross remained evident for approximately forty-five minutes.”

The family telephoned the priest in Washington, and after a few days, the priest in St. Louis brought the case to his archbishop (Archbishop Ritter) and was authorized to continue with the exorcisms.

Artist’s Conception of Devil as the Beast

The symptoms of possession seemed to get worse and not better with the new exorcism attempts beginning on March 16.

“The seizures took place in the evening when the boy went to bed and would last from 8:00 to 12 Midnight or 1:00 AM, intermittently, and then the boy would go off into a perfectly normal sleep for nine or ten hours.”

It was decided a few days later to recite the prayers earlier so that everyone could get more sleep. Nevertheless, the seizures were unabated and started about 9:00 at night and lasted until 2:00 or 3:00 AM.

Sometimes as many as ten people were required to hold the boy during seizures. He would tear the sheets and pillows to shreds, as well as the shirts and undershirts of those who restrained him. He was utterly wild, hitting and kicking. He even broke the nose of one of the assisting Jesuit students. One incident had him scratching the exorcist’s arm so badly that he could not lift it for a number of days.

“Coming out of a seizure he would complain of feeling very hot and would ask for a glass of water. After one of the seizures in the beginning, he said that the evil spirit seems to carry him down into a pit about two hundred feet deep where there were intense heat and vile evil spirits. In the beginning also he seemed to be in a long, dark cave with a tiny bit of light at the far end; as the exorcism progressed, the lighted end seemed to grow larger and larger, in one of the exorcisms, the spirit, in the body of the boy, pointed to one of the priests who were assisting and said: ‘What is the use of you being here; you will be with me in hell in 1957.’”

A few days passed. The boy asked to be baptized. It should be noted that his father had been baptized a Catholic and that some of his cousins in St. Louis were Catholics. Once consulted, the parents were agreeable. The boy was instructed and preparations were made to baptize him in church.

“On the appointed morning he rose, took a shower, ate his usual breakfast and set out for the church in a car driven by his uncle. Just before reaching the church the boy grabbed his uncle by the neck and said: ‘You S.O.B., you think I am going to be baptized, but you are going to be fooled.’ The uncle was just able to seize the emergency brake and avert a collision by an inch. It was realized that to baptize the boy in the church would create a scene, so he was taken to the third floor of the rectory, which stands in back of the church but faces Lindell Boulevard. Every time he was asked: ‘Do you renounce Satan and all his works?’ he would go into a rage. Only after several hours of repetition was the boy able to reply: ‘I do renounce Satan and all his works.’ Then it required several more hours to get the water poured on the boy’s head.”

After the rite of initiation, things became calm and quiet for a couple days. However, then the demonic business started up again and worse than before. Some of the phenomenon was quite peculiar.

“One was the amount of spittle that the boy could discharge: there would be half-a-pint at one time. At times he would ask for a glass of water and it would be given to him, although it was known what would happen. It would be spat back on the bystanders. While the priest read the exorcisms, two others would hold a towel in front of his face to protect his glasses, but it was useless; the spittle would go under the towel, over the towel or around the towel and strike directly on the priest’s glasses, and the boy’s eyes would be closed the whole time. Another phenomenon was excessive urination. During the seizures the boy would utter the vilest obscenities, curses, blasphemies and ribald songs, all in a high falsetto voice that was off key.”

It is noted that at one stage, the exorcist had to protect himself with a pillow, for the boy’s head moved like a cobra, aiming non-stop with spittle for his face.

First Communion

The exorcist and the family returned to the Washington, D.C. area. The boy’s parents were at wits end and were suffering from sleep deprivation. Fr. Hughes tried to get the boy committed to a sanatorium or hospital in the Washington-Baltimore area, but none would take him. It was decided to take him to the Alexian Brothers Hospital in St. Louis. He was given instructions in preparation for his first communion. The hope was that receiving the Eucharist might bring the possession to an end.

“When the time came, it was impossible to get the Host near his tongue, but finally, after several hours, they succeeded in placing it on his tongue and three times he spat it out. Eventually success was achieved. This was on April 2, the first Saturday of the month, a day dedicated to Our Lady of Fatima. The title was explained to the boy and he showed great interest. But the seizures continued.”

“What is Your NAME?”

During the exorcism, the priest asked for the first time its name.

“What is your name and when will you depart?” The response was simply “Shut up, shut up.” Later, “in answer to the question of his name, the words, ‘Hell, Spirit,’ appeared in red letters on the boy’s chest. In reply to the question of departure, red numbers: 4, 8, 10, 16, some Roman numerals appeared on the boy’s body. He said: ‘I will not go until a certain word is pronounced and this boy will never say it.’ There also appeared a red arrow extending from the boy’s throat to the bottom of his abdomen, and it was thought that the spirit might go out by the way of urine, as has happened in some cases.”

An appendage to the diary tells us that “the boy would greet the priests with filthy, foul obscenities, fluently answer the exorcist’s questions in Latin, a language he had never studied.” One day the boy was sitting in bed reading about Our Lady of Fatima with the book on his knees when he was thrown into a seizure. He threw the book across the room. On another occasion, he was given a glass of milk and threw that across the room. On one of the final days, a Jesuit scholastic gave the boy a plate of chipped beef. He grabbed the plate, jumped to one side of the room, and threatened to brain anyone approaching him. While one assistant approached him from one side, the scholastic crawled under the bed to seize him. The boy threw and smashed the dish of food against the wall.

Liberation at Last

Despite hope that the possession would end during Holy Week, it continued through Easter Sunday with particularly violent seizures. The worst day of all was April 18, Easter Monday. The exorcist and his assistants were becoming completely discouraged.

“Suddenly, at 11:00 PM, a new voice was heard from the boy; a beautiful, rich, deep bass voice exclaimed: ‘Satan, Satan, go, now, now, now to the pit where you belong, in the name of DOMINUS (the Lord).’ That was the word and at that moment the boy felt a tearing sensation in his stomach, relaxed and lay perfectly quiet. He described what has happened. He saw a brilliant figure, visible from the waist up, clothed in a close-fitting white garment which had the appearance of scales; the hair was long and flowing in a wind; the right hand held something like a flaming sword or light pointing downward. It was St. Michael the Archangel. When he spoke, the evil spirit rebelled against going until the word ‘Dominus’ was spoken and at this moment the boy felt the tearing sensation in his stomach. Then at some distance down he saw some evil spirits standing at the mouth of a cave from which flames issued. Then the spirits reluctantly withdrew into the cave, the opening closed and across it appeared the word: ‘Spite.’ Thus the possession was ended.”

Closing Remarks

The diary tells us that the exorcist and his assistants “observed some severe fasting, mindful of the admonition of Christ that some devils can be driven out only by prayer and fasting.” There had been at least twenty exorcisms performed. One Jesuit involved remarked: “Only by examining the record after possession was ended, was it possible to see the meaning of the replies (the red marks on the boy’s body). The numbers may have been the days on which certain spirits departed from the boy, if there were actually more than one in his body.”

The Jesuit priest, Fr. Bowdern, passed away in 1983 and his assistant and then scholastic, Fr. Walter Halloran died from cancer March 1, 2005. The young server who tried to help Fr. Hughes desired to remain anonymous while he was alive. An interesting side note, George (the server) told me that when the boy returned to Washington, he could not remember the active possession episodes. The possessed man is still living and there has been no trouble since. He married and had a nice family. Life went on.

A FEW ADDENDUM NEWSPAPER CITATIONS

An aunt of the boy said in a New York Times article from August 1972:

(Upon the boy’s visit to her home) “All of a sudden the mattress starts going, just raised up in the air, and down, up and down, and my sister hollered for me, . . . oh I tell you that mattress just raised both of us right up in the air . . . . I happened to have a table against the wall with a vase of flowers on it and I got out but as my nephew tried to leave, that table actually flew in front of the door and would not let him out . . . .” In the same article it quotes what a Jesuit priest confided to him, “I assure you, Gene — I saw this with my own eyes — the boy did not tear the Ritual book, he dissolved it! The book vaporized into confetti and fell in small pieces to the floor!”

The staff writer Jeremiah O’Leary reported in The Evening Star that the boy spoke an unknown language that sounded similar to Hebrew.

“A professor of Oriental languages from Catholic University was called in and he was shocked to discover the words coming from the boy’s mouth were in Aramaic, the language spoken in Palestine in Jesus’ day.”

RECOMMENDED READING:

Allen, Thomas B. POSSESSED. New York: Doubleday, 1993.

Exploitation & Where Do We Really Find Evil?

After reading the sensational article “Possessed,” by Thomas B. Allen in June 1993’s edition of Washingtonian Magazine, many people were eager to buy the book of the same title released in July of that year. Having read the book, it must be admitted that there are elements to the tale that seem to validate Christian faith in God and in his mercy; however, at the same time I fear that it’s telling will surrender true religion to mockery and to superstition. No suggestion is made in the article and none in the book until the very end, that there might still be more to the story than the supernatural. However, even if it should be the case, books and films tend to give more emphasis to the demonic than to the divine. Producers and writers work ever harder to shock their patrons, an audience made increasingly insensitive to violence and to “things that go bump in the night.” We want to be entertained and producers of horror films and writers know all too well how to excite the masses with fear and gross happenings. Even the 1973 film, The Exorcist, based on William Peter Blatty’s book, opted to highlight vulgar language, Eucharistic desecration, obscene gestures, fanciful special effects, and finally the death and failure of the two priests. I would suspect that the battle between good and evil is more frequently invisible to the movie camera and ignored by novelists seeking to sell books. Indeed, just as the case here began as one of demonic obsession and only later became possession when the exorcisms were attempted; might a heightened concentration upon this issue similarly endanger people? Such worries me in my own retelling, although I offer the corrective that Christ is really the one with all the power. Satan is pathetic by comparison to our Lord. The end of the story, the real story, is what makes a big difference. God’s grace is victorious over sin. Evil is repulsed. Having said this, while it is true that the devil should not become a scapegoat for all human ills, it is almost impossible to believe that he is not involved with the atrocities at home and abroad. In language, popular music, drug experiences, new cult religions, escalating crime, immoral lifestyles, terrorism, wars and genocide, abortion, euthanasia, etc., Satan is exerting an obsessive influence, numbing consciences and helping to distort values.

“Okay, maybe this story should not have been told?”

Sometimes the devil is incredibly subtle; at other times he shocks us by his audacity and malice. If people want to be frightened, then here is the real thing of which to be afraid; but, only if we separate ourselves by sin from Christ and the sacraments. Most of us, probably all of us after the age of reason, are no longer bystanders to the devil’s malevolence, but in every sin, large and small, accomplices. God’s grace can turn this around, if we really want Satan exorcised from our society and world.

Prayer to Saint Michael the Archangel

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly hosts, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan, and all the evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

Recommended Books

An Exorcist Tells His Story by Gabriele Amorth. (Ignatius Press, 1999).

An Exorcist: More Stories by Gabriele Amorth. (Ignatius Press, 2002).

Angels and Demons by Peter J. Kreeft. (Ignatius Press, 1995).

Ghosts and Poltergeists by Herbert Thurston, S.J. (H. Regnery Company, 1954).

148 Responses

  1. Fr. Joe,

    Do you have any thoughts on secret societies like the Freemasons, Skull & Bones, and Bohemian Grove? It bothers me that so many government elites secretly participate in strange rituals that smack of the occult.

    Professor Antony Sutton wrote, “Skull & Bones represents death. It has no life spirit and pretends that the State ‘is the march of God on earth.’ The thinking of immature juveniles, deadly and destructive and has almost totally infected Washington.”

    In my opinion, its another reason to vote Ron Paul for President! Shrink the size of the federal government, and we shrink the influence of the demonic in our world.

    FATHER JOE: Catholics are forbidden by canon law to have any affiliation or membership in secret societies.

  2. Dear Fr Joe,

    I have never seen a ghost but I do believe they exist; even Jesus told his Apostles to touch him so that they could see that His Ressurected Body was not a ‘ghost’ and so by implication, He confirmed that ghosts can exist.

    I worked for a number of years for an Undertaker and have collected and dispached several hundreds of dead bodies, sometimes even having to lift them using a ‘bear hug’ to get them up and out of their place of demise.

    Out of all those several hundred dead bodies I have never felt anything strange apart from just one person, a man in his early fifties who was deemed to be somewhat ‘unreliabe’. I had a real feeling of fear and discomfort being anywhere near his dead body and even though he was definately dead it felt as if he was very, very angry perhaps even at being dead, but certainly there was a very strong and almost tangible feeling of total unrest and something ‘not right’ even with the lid screwed down on his coffin. I was pleased to see the final cremation of that one.

    Jesus spent much of His ministry ‘casting out demons’ and even warned that a change of heart needed to take place after such an ‘exorcism’ lest once the house is cleaned a greater number of even more powerful spirits take up residence. Was He talking rubbish? I think not.

    Satan is variously described as a liar and a murderer, and it seems that he certainly has a hold on this world and is gaining ground every day. His biggest deception so far has been to convince the whole world that he does not exist; there are even many Catholics who see him as some sort of myth. We are living in very turbulent and troubled times and I fear that the angelic trumpet blast may not be that far away.

    With love and best wishes,
    Paul

  3. KARAN: What about other religions? Can it not be believed that other gods too foster us?

    FATHER JOE: No, such belief is not tolerable. It violates the commandment about worshipping false gods. God is one, there is no other. Moslems, Jews and Christians would all agree upon this point.

    ROGGER: Hello Father Joe, I would like to mention here that there was no Christianity before Christ was born and yet there was religious belief. You, yourself, have different ways to live your own beliefs, which to my surprise, are in opposition to each other, as with Catholics and Protestants. In one the Father (priest) can marry and in other the Father cannot marry; both claim to be right in their own ways. There is no mandatory standard between each other.

    FATHER JOE: I am not sure what you are trying to say. Disciplines vary between denominations and the sects of non-Christian religions. The divisions within Christianity are scandalous, but Catholicism sees itself as whole in itself. It is the Church established by Jesus Christ.

    ROGGER: Every religion says that GOD IS ONE and your bible and you, yourself, said that Christ was not a god, just a medium with his power. If you still you worship him, not the GOD himself; what’s wrong if other religions worship mediums, since in the end it all refers to the same one god? Please reply.

    FATHER JOE: Is English a secondary language for you? That might be the root of your confusion. I fixed your text as much as possible. First, not every believes that God is one. Islam, Judaism and Christianity are monotheistic religions. Second, while we believe there is one divine nature, we as Christians also believe that God is three divine persons: God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. The second person of the divine Trinity is Jesus Christ who has both a human nature and a divine nature. Jesus Christ is God. He is one with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. Jesus is the Mediator between heaven and earth, but he is NOT an occult medium. I suspect this is the source of the language confusion. Jesus is the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one is saved apart from Christ. He is the bridge between heaven and earth. He is the revelation of the Father. Even those of other religions, if they should somehow find themselves in heaven, it will be because of Jesus. Likely or unlikely, there is no other saving covenant. Jesus is the fulfillment of the Jewish promise. There are not two covenants, one for Jews and another for Christians. Jesus is the Messiah and Lord. Christians would argue that coming to know and to love Jesus with a saving and active faith is critically important.

  4. Just to answer some questions asked, from my own experiences:

    My spirit came out of my body over 20 years ago and I saw what I believe to be a demon. It spoke to me by thought, not language and felt fear because of it. It asked to join me and I said “no”, this made it angry and I started saying the Lord’s Prayer and my spirit came back into my body. I could not see the demon when I was back in my body but I looked to the branch where It was leaning.

    From my own research there is a difference between demons and fallen angels. Demons are the unclean spirits of the children of the fallen angels and womens. The floods of Noah destroyed these children.

    Demons once had bodies but they have been destroy long ago and it is the reason they wish to possess another, yours if possible. Fallen angels are more about being worshipped by the deluded who pratise the occult. Called by them gods and goddess but follow them and it is to hell you will go because that is where they are going.

    FATHER JOE:

    Paul, I cannot say for sure whether you had a spiritual encounter or an aberration of the mind or both. So-called out-of-body experiences, if genuine, are regarded as dangerous and nothing should be done to promote such occult activity. It might make a person vulnerable to a demonic invasion. If a demon appears, the actual likeness of the spiritual entity is a fabricated phantom. Either as an objective effect or as a likeness somehow imprinted upon the mind, the demon is spiritual and is actually invisible. It has no real physical body at all. It could appear as all sorts of things, but none of them would truly reflect the hidden reality.

    As for your research, it is wrong. Such deception is itself the work of the evil one. There is no difference between fallen angels and demons— they are one and the same. Demons are not permitted to have children with human women. Such would be a form of the heresy called Manichaeism implying that the demonic or the devil is creative. He is not. The number of angels, good and bad, is fixed. Not having bodies, angelic spirits cannot die. Annihilation is against the divine economy. You would do best to avoid any dabbling in the occult.

    Demons never had physical bodies. They still have angelic power and wisdom but are handicapped by the forfeiture of divine grace and the loss of the beatific vision. They have no need of the human body and, in a sense, carry a piece of hell with them everywhere they go. These hell-spirits hate God and they hate you. They do not respect human personhood. Possession is a way for them to mock creation and the incarnation itself. Many of the early Church fathers considered the pagan gods to be demons in disguise.

  5. father joe,
    i am not catholic ,and frankly i am southern baptist.I really needed some insight on something my church doesn’t deal with.I’ve asked you to times for advice and you have deleted my questions.True christians do not turn away someone in need an any question i ask my church they return and do not delete so you must have not felt like dignifying my question with answers or just plainly thought my question had already been answered from the input above,but never the less i know were my faith lies and thats with god so whether your catholic or southern baptist you should still answer a question when your a priest to someone in need and not turn your back on people wanting to know.

    FATHER JOE: As far as I can recall, I have never deleted your questions. It is possible that the Spam filter misjudged the message and placed it in the wrong folder. What are you asking?

  6. Dear men of Jesus,
    I am a 23 year old female, and i think i am possesed by something.I think perverse thoughts that i can;t get to stop i am constintly depressed i think about excorsism but am scared they won’t think i need one i dream about evil things and evil people coming after me and rebuke them they leave.when i look in the mirror i see something in my eyes that isn’t me and it scares me so bad i get way from the mirror.please tell me does it sound like im possesed because i’ve thought i am for 2 years.

    FATHER JOE:

    Dear Shayanne, Many people struggle with bad thoughts. This does not mean they are possessed. Depression is also a common malady that can be treated with counseling and medication. It does not mean that a person needs exorcism. As for nightmares, we all have them. The fear that others are out to get us is a type of phobia not dissimilar from a type of persecution complex. Of course, sometimes people are out to get us… like the terrorists after 9-11. It is easy to imagine images in the mirror or movement toward the sides of our vision. I cannot say that this sounds at all like possession. Have you ever seen a psychologist? Is there any history of bi-polar disease?

  7. Do you know what became of the priest who was told would be in hell in 1957?

    FATHER JOE: He stayed faithful, got old and lived a lot longer than 1957. The devil is a liar.

  8. What about other religions? Can it not be believed that other gods too foster us?

    FATHER JOE: No, such belief is not tolerable. It violates the commandment about worshipping false gods. God is one, there is no other. Moslems, Jews and Christians would all agree upon this point.

  9. Fr. Joe,

    I have been researching this topic and similar stories and prayers because I believe my girlfriend is either possessed or under demonic oppression (not sure which). I didn’t notice anything until about 2 or 3 weeks ago when she all of a sudden got really quiet and began cutting herself. After she asked what I’d do if she cut herself, she just passed out. Like totally unconscious and barely breathing. This would last for about an hour, then she would come back as if someone had shocked her with a defibrillator with no recollection of what transpired prior. I’ve noticed (up to now) that this would happen between Sunday evening though early Tuesday morning consistently. Sunday, she would have strange dreams and notice a supernatural presence in her room; Monday is when things would get physical: touching, movement of objects, actually SEEING things or people that weren’t really there or are unexplained and having them make physical contact with her. Then she’d collapse and her body would be lifeless for over an hour between 1:56 AM – 2:56 or later. I witnessed just last week while I was video chatting with her late Sunday night, early Monday morning, her being touched and communicating with a spirit then after communication stopped, her Teddy bear that she had on the bed started moving. It would stop every time she looked back at it, then start moving again when she looked away. After she tossed it on the floor in front of her, it somehow flew up and hit her in the face like someone picked it up and threw it at her. Mind you, she was the only one up and awake at that time. And just a few hours ago the possession happened again. Prior to her passing out, she told me that she had made a deal with a man in her dream that she would kill herself on her birthday because he said he would kill her family if she didn’t. After she collapsed I continued to pray over her and even tried reciting an exorcism prayer in Latin (of course the demon laughed at my expense). That prayer was pretty much my last ditch effort.

    I need your help Father Joe. What do I do? Or what CAN I do when I’m the only one that witnesses these things happening and have a clear recollection that these events actually happened? How can I prove what’s happening to her? How can I expel this demon? Or who can I call to expel or exorcise it?

    FATHER JOE: If you believe there is an issue then you should contact your local Catholic priest and he can notify the diocese. However, be mindful that the Church moves slowly and a complete mental evaluation by trained professionals will be required. Indeed, particularly if supernatural elements are in doubt, I would urge psychiatric help at once. Seizures and cutting are familiar symptoms of mental illness. If there is the slightest chance of suicide, have her placed under observation by medical personnel immediately. Do not delay.

  10. When God allows the saints the Saints, before they die, to be “oppressed” , is it because they are doing something wrong? Like while the oppression is taking place, should they have not have been doing what it was they were doing when it came about. Does it indicate a change of course or action and this is as a means as a “sign” from God to change?

    FATHER JOE: I am not familiar with the notion of saints suffering demonic oppression. They can undergo attack (even physical) but they have the armor of God’s grace to repel such assaults. Father Vianney would be a case in point.

  11. Thank you father Joe for getting back to me. So in other words on the energy healing the “catholic” priest think what i have been doing for years is not work from God within?… I’m trying to understand, because i have only helped people and never wanted anything in return. Simply helping others or i should say service to others is my reward.

    FATHER JOE: You may mean well, but I think what you are doing is very dangerous. I would counsel against it.

  12. FATHER JOE ARE U SURE WE CANT PRAY FOR EVIL TO CONVERT? IT JUST DOESNT MAKE SENSE THAT IT DO NO GOOD. IF GOD IS ALL N CAN DO IT ALL N IS OF HOPE. THEM HOPING FOR EVIL TO CONVERT SHOULD BE OK.

    CAN U TOUCH THE SUBJECT ON THE MOVIE ” THE RITE”? HOW MUCH OF IT IS TRUE? SINCE IT IS BASED ON A TRUE STORY. WHAT IS THE REASON AN EXORCIST,PRIEST, WOULD BE POSSESSED? LOST FAITH? OR MAYB THE DEVILS WAY OF SAYING ANY1 CAN BE POSSESSED GIVEN THE PROPER SITUATION, OPENED DOOR??/

    FATHER JOE: We can pray for the conversion of sinners in this world. However, at the time of death our fate is sealed. As for the fallen angels, they have made their decision and their wills cannot be turned. We do not pray for demons, rather we pray to be protected from them and that they might be cast into hell. This is for our benefit. God respects our freedom and will not force either human beings or angelic creatures to love him. I have not seen the movie you mention and so I cannot comment upon it.

  13. I am satanic, and I would love to be possessed so I can scare all my family and friends as I hate most of them. Any ideas on how to obtain a demon or lucifer himself? -or even a female, like Lilith?

    Bye, Skylar Sixx

    FATHER JOE: Actually, despite your sad attempt at humor, you are under Satanic oppression. It is not funny, but terribly tragic. Repent of false worship and blasphemy. Ask the Lord for mercy.

  14. Hello Fr. Joe,

    I am a 37 year old Catholic woman with long-term sobriety and now, celibacy, who has struggled with Spiritual Interruption and possession for 25 years. I have been through 5 exorcisms by five different sources, the last being Jesuit priests about three months ago.

    The Jesuits along with two close family members were witness to an experience very similar to the ones you discussed. I had to be held down, spoke in a different language, and spewed obscenities. It was horrible and not the first time I have experienced the attacks. The Jesuit explained that my soul was not possessed but that I was under constant spiritual attack. “Angel Intelligence and Pests” were the terms he used.

    I work with people in a healing capacity in the fitness and bodywork industry. I have little to no ability to control the absorption of my clients’ negative energies. My work often leaves me in altered states, exhausted and incapacitated. My clients leave after working with me feeling rejuvenated and addicted to me and my work with them.

    I have tried leaving my field of work and am forcefully drawn back into it. Any other work or relationship I have pursued has been clearly sabotaged by external forces. I wonder everyday if it is God’s will for me to be a healer and dedicate my life to making others feel better at my own expense, or if I have become a vessel of the Devil and his attraction. I am aware of the times I am hosting an entity and have developed a very strong mind and set of tools to recognize it and work through it/clear it.

    The lengths of time I have been struggling with this and the circumstances it has created in my life are going far beyond my scope of coping though. This has brought me to my knees. I feel helpless and beyond exhausted. Being this way is killing me. I do not have any more solutions and am losing the fight. Any suggestion is welcome.

    Daisy

    FATHER JOE:

    Dear Daisy,

    Are you sure that you have experienced genuine exorcisms? The Jesuit priests would have had to receive permission from the Ordinary and that is only given after an investigation. Sometimes priests give blessings and minor exorcisms, as in baptism. There is also the growing practice of less formal deliverance prayer. I have often advised the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel and consecration to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. Were the other exorcisms conducted by approved priests? If not, lay faith healers and so-called psychics can make matters far worse. We do not want to either fuel superstition or exacerbate a true spiritual attack. Ordinarily, the Church insists upon a psychological evaluation.

    I am unfamiliar with nuance purportedly offered by the Jesuits. Demons are fallen angels and as pure spirits they are composed of intellect, will and angelic power. Those attacked by them could rightly call them “pests,” just as Father Vianney and Padre Pio experienced, albeit victoriously and resisting temptation along with despair. There is much left unexplained in your message, particularly what if anything instigated the spiritual assault.

    I am also at odds to understand what you mean by absorbing your “clients’ negative energies.” We can be drained by the presence of evil but I doubt that everyone you work with would qualify for such a classification. I am not sure there is any such thing as “negative energy.” Evil is by definition a negation. We are not empowered by evil but drained by it. It has no energy to give, rather it takes.

    If a person is a host for the devil, he or she cannot be a true healer. I would urge that you seek healing for yourself— from the Church and from professionals in the medical and psychiatric field. I am not saying that this is all in your mind. It is not for me to know in this simple correspondence. But a person can suffer both from spiritual affliction and psychological illness. Having said this, and given what else you write, the business about having “tools to recognize it and work through it” is a deception. It does not work that way. The devil would have you believe that you have matters under control, so that he could continue to eat away at you. Refusal to seek out psychological help is also a tactic of the devil. You need healing of mind, body and soul.

    Take my advice and seek the proper counsel. The devil only wins if we let him win. The fight is not so much ours but Christ’s. While suffering and death as the consequences of sin have yet to be undone, Our Lord has already conquered the devil and the grave. Say your prayers, go to Mass and seek the appropriate help. Do not resist doing this. The Lord works through priests and healers in the medical profession.

    Blessings,
    Father Joe

  15. Hello, I was wondering why only priests do exorcisms? Why can’t an energy healer do it as well or at least help in that situation?

    Jesus was a mortal man and he healed the sick with God’s power within him (which we all have since we are all children of God). I am an energy healer. I help others heal themselves with divine energy from God within me. I help people with their bad hearing , eye site, stress, negative energy, and help clean their homes with the Lord’s prayer and always ask Archangel Michael and Raphael to help and guide me… and I listen to them every time.

    Ana

    FATHER JOE:

    We do not have energy healers, as such, in the Catholic Church. I have never heard of them. Turning to Jesus, he was a divine Person made incarnate. God comes down from heaven to save us in Jesus Christ. The priest has been given the authority by Christ (passed down from the apostles) to forgive sins and to celebrate the Eucharist. Everything he does is through the power of Christ and as one who is a shepherd of the Church established by Christ. This is why the Catholic Church reserves the ministry of exorcism to certain priests who have demonstrated personal holiness. While the intercession of the saints and angels is important, the modern tendency to displace our Lord with “angel power” is a symptom of New Age religion. The latter is dangerous for many reasons, but particularly because there is a dabbling in the occult. The spiritual agency involved might masquerade as holy and yet have a demonic source. I would urge you to be very cautious lest you suffer spiritual invasion and/or delusion. If you are Catholic, you should desist and see a Catholic priest for the sacrament of Reconciliation.

  16. Hi Father,
    Some questions if you please:

    1. What are demons physically made of?

    2. Can demons be forgiven? Should they be prayed for?

    3. How common is demonic possession? On the one hand it sounds like it’s extremely rare, but on the other, there’s the sense that Satan and his minions are always at work trying to proliferate their work.

    4. I assume possessions are rare because demons and their master like to work on the sly – it’s more effective that way. Wouldn’t they mean that in actuality demonic influence is likely very very prevalent and that demonic possession only happens when a demon screws up?

    Thanks!

    Blessings,
    BJG

    FATHER JOE:

    Demons are fallen angels. Angels are pure spirits. They have no bodies or material substance.

    Angels, good and bad, as spiritual entities, live outside of time. They define themselves, their substantial form, by an immutable act of will. They cannot change their minds. Good angels are counted among the saints. Bad angels or demons are damned. They are literally “hell spirits.” We pray neither for good angels nor for bad. The damned will remain so for all eternity. Our prayers cannot help them. Good angels are already with God and do not need our prayers. We can pray “to” (but not “for”) the good angels and saints for intercession and solidarity in prayer.

    Demonic possession is not as common as the movies make out and not as rare as certain skeptics would argue. Given that many are done secretly, figures are not to be trusted. Much more common is spiritual oppression and the curse.

    The devil is more successful if people are largely unaware of his presence. He is like a roach. He runs from the light but comes out at night from the cracks and shadows of people’s lives. If he became too obvious, many might run back to faith and the Lord. He can also hide behind the works of human iniquity, particularly in the world scene and/or where there is purported mental illness.

  17. Hello Fr.,

    Thank you for your website. I am a former muslim, who came to Catholicism via Evangelical student ministries on campus. Currently I am hoping to become a medical missionary to a muslim country. Having completed my Master’s in Theology and now beginning internship in medicine I would like your prayers and advice on integrating faith into a secular vocation. My interest is in Psychiatry, which I believe is also a field ripe for deliverance ministry. Lord bless and peace in Christ our redeemer.

    FATHER JOE: Remain a man of faith and prayer, as well as being a professional man of science who cares about others. Have you read Dr. Scott Peck’s books? http://www.mscottpeck.com/

  18. I grew up in Colmar Manor. The town across from Cottage City. know the exact house. I was also a member of St James Parish. The story is pretty darn close to all I’ve heard. This kid was not faking this situation. I leave it there……

    Peace be with you

  19. Father Joe:

    How do you Know if there is for sure a demon in your house. And im also doing a report on this subject so all of this stuff that you put up is what actually happen.

    FATHER JOE: Supernatural events would be a dead giveaway. Rather than stressing the demonic, I would urge people to be mindful of their own shortcomings and to embrace God’s grace to change them and their lives. The question really should be, how do we make our homes into places of blessing and God’s presence? If holy people live in a home, that holiness will pervade the place. Lives of repentance, faith and charity is the way to God. Decorate the home with religious art and statuary. Many homes have a prayer corner or a Marian shrine. It is also a tradition to have a priest bless homes and to consecrate them to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.

  20. I am currently going through RCIA and am really enjoying learning about the Church. It’s been a couple of months ago now, but we did touch upon the subject of exorcism and if I am remembering correctly, the evil spirits have to be invited in in some way. Our Deacon said by following the ways of the Church and attending Mass we really have nothing to fear as far as possession goes.

    FATHER JOE: Our Lord tells us not to be afraid. Certainly being a good Catholic lends much spiritual protection. However, just as with the wrongs inflicted by evil men, I could not say that we are absolutely safe. Further, possession is an extreme; I suspect many more people suffer under demonic oppression or subtle manipulation or influence. Much has been said about how those who favor abortion are likely under such spiritual bondage. That is why many are returning to the Prayer of St. Michael and reciting deliverance prayer.

  21. IN any cases have the victims of exorcism been able to speak with the demon that is possessing them directly? i would like to have a conversation with one, let them weigh in on this religious situation

    FATHER JOE: You do not know what you are saying. There is no symbiosis with demons. The devils are the ultimate parasite. The devils are all about manipulation, abuse and deceit. They have no respect for their puppets and already know way too much about us. They have no interest in helping you, only in corruption and damnation. It is forbidden to seek such communication. Indeed, any dabbling in the occult is mortal sin.

  22. Hi Father Joe, thank you for posting this. I am a Catholic and am very interested in the topic of exorcism. I’ve just seen the film “The Rite” and began to research deeper into this area.

    I’d like to share some material with others who might be interested to learn more about this:

    Those interested to lean more about evil and demonic possession can watch a real video on an exorcism here: http://bit.ly/cwG3fP . Listen also to prominent theologian and exorcist Fr. Malachi Martin on The Nature Of Evil, Exorcism & Possession http://bit.ly/bZqbrb .Additionally you can also watch this documentary http://alturl.com/ctzmm showing a real exorcism in the Philippines.

    Fr. Gabriele Amorth, Rome’s chief exorcist’s book is also worth a read. This milestone book is a great resource on demonology and diabolic possession. Read here http://alturl.com/hj58k about how one can get possessed and how to protect yourself and your family against witchcraft, spells, demonic influences etc.

    FATHER JOE: Avoid obsession with this topic, that is also a ploy of the evil one.

  23. hello,
    father joe,
    I am just an college student. I want to do project on the exocrism and write the book on it. Father plz help me,plz.
    my contact [deleted]. plz father contact me as soon
    as possible

    FATHER JOE: Sorry, I would suggest another topic.

  24. Dear Father Joe,
    I am Catholic and I have to do a research paper for my English class. I chose to do the topic of Exorcisms. Thank you for putting this story online. It gave me a lot to think about. I was just wondering, to the best of your knowledge, what is the best way to keep evil spirits out of you and prevent having something like an exorcism happen? Thank you.
    God Bless

    FATHER JOE: The best way is to avoid the occult and to remain in God’s good graces. The gravity for the Christian is Jesus, not an obsession with the demonic.

  25. Hay Father Joe, im a charismatic christian but the catholic religion has interested me for a very long time, but ive asked my church paster about cathlicasm and they say that the Mary that you pray to and all the saints are infact deitys , i would just like to know, why do you pray to saints and Mary, why not only directly to Christ ? And also why do you pray the rosary ? In my seeing(no disrespect to the catholic church) you put Mary and the saints above Christ ? Isnt Christ the only one you should go to for help ? Why do you ask saints for help ? Thax alot God bless

    FATHER JOE: Look at the universal catechism for yourself. You will see that we view Mary and the saints as children of creation. They are not deities. We ask them to pray for and with us as members of God’s family. We believe Mary still has a special role as the woman of faith and Christ’s first disciple. We believe that when Jesus entrusted Mary to John at the cross, the Mother of the Redeemer became the Mother of all the Redeemed. Jesus loved his mother. We imitate Jesus in loving her, too. The mysteries of the rosary help us to keep in mind the important elements of faith and salvation history. All prayer, the rosary included, has as its object, almighty God. Jesus is the one Mediator and Redeemer. He is the way and the truth and the life.

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