EVETTE: First we cannot pick and choose what and who we want to believe in from the Bible.
FATHER JOE: Well, yes and no, obviously the dispensation of Christ means we no longer have to follow elements in the Old Testament like the Levitical laws. There are also elements of immutable doctrine mixed with variable discipline.
EVETTE: Proverbs 30:6, “add thou not unto his words lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.”
FATHER JOE: Be careful who you call a liar. Proverbs 30 also says, verse 32, “If you have foolishly been proud or presumptuous—put your hand on your mouth.”
EVETTE: The catholic church is so focused on rituals, hail marys and acknowledging priests instead if God, that many souls are being led astray and lost under this false religion.
FATHER JOE: The liturgy begins with repentance, then the proclamation of the Word, next the Lord’s Supper that Jesus commanded to be done in remembrance of him. Every part of the Mass can be connected with an element of Scripture. Similarly, the Hail Mary prayer is a combination of the angel’s greeting at the Annunciation, Elizabeth’s insight at the Visitation and the Church’s response, loving Mary just as Jesus loved her. None of that is false religion. Indeed, it seems to me that you might be the poor lost soul in this discussion.
EVETTE: There is ONLY ONE CHURCH, ONE INTERCESSOR: Christ. 1 Timothy 2:5, “for there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” That church is the CHURCH OF GOD!
Yes, this is true; there is only one Mediator between God and man, Jesus Christ. Catholicism does not deny the unique role of Christ as Savior and Redeemer. But your use of the word intercessor does not pass muster here. If you read just a few verses earlier, we find this text: “First of all, then, I ask that supplications, prayers, petitions, and thanksgivings be offered FOR everyone…” (1 Timothy 2:1). Praying for others or supplication is called INTERCESSION. Oops, I guess you missed that one. It is also true that there is one Church of God and it is my firm faith, in light of the apostolic transmission through history, that this is the Roman Catholic Church.
Beware of fundamentalism, Evette. If you make no distinction between doctrine and discipline then I am surprised we are even having this “conversation.” Just a few verses later, we read, “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet” (1 Timothy 2:12). My understanding of this is nuanced, but what is yours?
To be continued…